Title: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: LeoPhone on June 25, 2009, 03:48:44 pm a lot of people are having trouble with playing a 4v4. they have their reasons for it.
the reason is most likely people dropping out of the game coz their computer/internet sucks. i however, enjoy EiR the most when playing a good 4v4. so i think there must be a solution to the problem of people dropping in 4v4s. my solution is: making a list of all the people with bad computers/internet so others can avoid those people in 4v4s. this list will be made by the players themselve who played a 4v4 with a guy who cant run it. this way, youll be almost always sure that the 4v4s will work. and ofcourse, to push people a bit more, maybe add a battle advantage that gives you some extra PP/XP when playing a 4v4? renember: a 4v4 normally takes longer too, so some extra PPs/XP is logical heres the 1st guy who should be on the 4v4 unsuitable list: - FingeredByaHOBO Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: CommanderHolt on June 25, 2009, 04:06:41 pm Why should we give extra incentives to play 4v4? It's sometimes not their fault that their connection/ computer can't handle a 4v4 so why should they be excuded from choice of gaining Extra PPs/XPs?
Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: gamesguy2 on June 25, 2009, 04:12:01 pm Its not rocket science, if you have one bar of performance, why in the world are you trying to play 4v4s?
Some people in this mod doesnt have the least bit of common sense. Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Dragon2008 on June 25, 2009, 04:20:43 pm Most people jus put there graphics to the highest it can go on there machine meaning they will only get like 10FPS in 2v2/3v3's. Most people like looks over performance and that is the reason why people don't play 4v4s. I could put my graphics upto high and would look good but would lag like hell in the most intense battles, so thats why I put my graphics on medium.
Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Pak88mm on June 25, 2009, 04:21:31 pm Its not rocket science, if you have one bar of performance, why in the world are you trying to play 4v4s? .Some people in this mod doesnt have the least bit of common sense. Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: EliteGren on June 25, 2009, 04:21:44 pm Good boy dragon.
Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Mukip on June 25, 2009, 04:47:11 pm It's amazing what you know about most people.
Doesn't the perf rating measure the average FPS of games you're in, meaning if there's a lagger in your game you will get a lower perf? That's my understanding so the performance bar is not entirely accurate. My computer can run COH at around 30-40 FPS on ultra settings yet my perf is always fluctuating. Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Illegal_Carrot on June 25, 2009, 04:51:56 pm It's amazing what you know about most people. The perf bar indicates the lowest FPS in your last three games. So if 20 V1s go off or something, and it slows your computer down, it'll still count that as part of your perf, even if you run CoH perfectly otherwise, and that's why your perf can fluctuate so much.Doesn't the perf rating measure the average FPS of games you're in, meaning if there's a lagger in your game you will get a lower perf? That's my understanding so the performance bar is not entirely accurate. My computer can run COH at around 30-40 FPS on ultra settings yet my perf is always fluctuating. Still, though, if someone's FPS has been under 5 for the last three games in a row, they generally can't handle something as large as a 4v4. Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Dragon2008 on June 25, 2009, 04:53:43 pm Cos it depends how much action and wat is happening in ur game at the time. Also depends wat map ur on and not every game is the exact same. I run COH on medium and get 40-50FPS but that all depends on what is happening in that game. (Big blobs/ Intense fire fights/ Massive offmap spam). Your preference is an average of the last 3 games you av played.
Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Guderian on June 25, 2009, 04:56:14 pm Well we first have to establish the meaning of 'rocket science' in this retrospective sentence.
Also going in on what meaning it has in context as also it has in general. Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: gamesguy2 on June 25, 2009, 05:00:36 pm Cos it depends how much action and wat is happening in ur game at the time. Also depends wat map ur on and not every game is the exact same. I run COH on medium and get 40-50FPS but that all depends on what is happening in that game. (Big blobs/ Intense fire fights/ Massive offmap spam). Your preference is an average of the last 3 games you av played. If you get 5 fps and lag when there is massive action, I don't want you playing in a 4v4, because you will lag whenever there is lots of action. And how often do 20 V1s go off at the same time? Its a red herring. ::) Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Guderian on June 25, 2009, 05:02:46 pm Also: One sucky player or that drops/afk/fails etc. The fail odds with a 4v4 is really deteriorating.
And i am serious, if a 3v3 and a 4v4 is up i am joining the 3v3 regardless. Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Piotrskivich on June 25, 2009, 05:07:46 pm I don't whats so wrong with 4v4s. :-[
I have a 4v4/fail ratio of something like 5/2 So it's worth the try. They are always most fun. Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Skaevola on June 25, 2009, 05:23:31 pm my solution is: making a list of all the people with bad computers/internet so others can avoid those people in 4v4s. this list will be made by the players themselve who played a 4v4 with a guy who cant run it. this way, youll be almost always sure that the 4v4s will work. Then let's round them into concentration camps and then... Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: LeoPhone on June 25, 2009, 05:33:14 pm youre right skaevola! lets do nothing, and keep letting people who dont take the responsibilty to not to play 4v4s becouse they cant run it, ruin other people's time!
Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Illegal_Carrot on June 25, 2009, 05:49:02 pm youre right skaevola! lets do nothing, and keep letting people who dont take the responsibilty to not to play 4v4s becouse they cant run it, ruin other people's time! Why don't you take responsibility for your own time, and not rely on someone else. It's really damn easy to see if someone's perf is bad enough to slow a game, and if you really think it's an issue, just ask that person to lower their settings so the game runs smoother. Don't put the blame on others when there's a simple solution in front of you (all why alluding to the Holocaust as a reasonable means to dealing with a simple issue). Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Skaevola on June 25, 2009, 05:50:02 pm If they're smart they'll choose not to play 4v4's. Remember, when they're lagging, the 4v4 is just as miserable for them. But putting people into a list so you can discriminate against them is not just fucking stupid, its called discrimination, and is morally wrong.
Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: 31stPzGren on June 25, 2009, 07:31:54 pm Always set everything to the lowest. EVERYTHING.
Then only set Model Detail to the highest... otherwise when you zoom out you can't see anything. Gameplay > Graphic Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: dravidian on June 25, 2009, 10:23:03 pm Gameplay > Graphic QFT! and also its more like a witch hunt, if they would just turn down their settings they would be fine, tell them that, but don't create a witch hunt Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Baine on June 26, 2009, 12:47:00 am I like to play 4v4s aswell.
Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: BradAnderson on June 26, 2009, 01:25:19 am heres the 1st guy who should be on the 4v4 unsuitable list: Thats me you ponce, you guys are fucking hilarious, i know i wasnt the main reason for lagging cause my screen would have said everyone was lagging at the same time and it didnt, THEN you blamed me for being kicked! Either way its a fucking game.- FingeredByaHOBO Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Malevolence on June 26, 2009, 01:31:32 am You lagged because of rain on an empty 2v2 map.
Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: BradAnderson on June 26, 2009, 09:07:59 am You lagged because of rain on an empty 2v2 map. I dont know why you would think that cause i've never played you and havn't played in a very long time and ceritnally not on a rainy map.Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: LeoPhone on June 26, 2009, 10:43:30 am ill repeat myselve:
there are some people who have terrible computers/internet and can never run 4v4s, even on lowest details. i thought this was the main reason 4v4s fail, and since this still happens, it seems these people cant take te responsibility not to play 4v4s. but becouse of them, we cant play 4v4s, so we should take the responsibility ourselves to sort of ban them from the 4v4s, since they cant play it anyways, and they ruin the game. the only thing i can have wrong here, is that ''people who have terrible computers/internet'' is not the main reason 4v4s fail. Title: Re: Popularity of 4v4s Post by: Jinker on June 26, 2009, 12:13:12 pm I would highly recommend adding maybe a +5pp bonus for 4v4s. For one, it takes almost as long to get a 4v4 going as it does to play a 2v2. 4v4s are also a great place to help out the newer players, as far as I am concerned. Great way to help teach them teamwork and whatnot, where mistakes dont have as much impact on the game as they would in a 2v2.
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