COH: Europe In Ruins

Watch Allied Ubermicro countering Vet. Masses Of the Axis.

Watch Axis Pro Players  

Level 8

Wittman Level 8
JackMcKrak LEvel8
Crimson Level8
....

vs some Allies Casual Players

Level  1-3

Besides losses
King Tiger down ,
Hummel down ,
Flak 88 down ,
Tiger down
...... and much more ....

Death and Misery everywhere.

 - They totally raped us. ! -

If you watched this replay and still think that Axis are not Overpowered watch and think again.

NERF!

http://www.filefront.com/13945486/axis_overpowered.zip

I can't tell if your being serious or not, level 8 'pros' vs level 1-3 'casual players' is generally always going to have the same result, it only gets worse the more players you add.

You could easily have a replay of pro ally vs casual axis.

sound pretty interesting - watching

Jaz, yeah thats why i posted that. The axis had full Ressource Advantages , all Tiers unlocked, lost some precious units, made a lot of mistakes and still won the game in easy mode. Its a good example what's wrong of the balancing in this mod.

Jaz, just watch it and you will see what i mean.

I'll watch the replay when I have time, but generally when someone 'totally rapes you' it doesn't involve them making a lot of mistakes, just because they lost some big units doesn't really mean anything.

Thats what im talking about Jaz, THEY can make mistakes. But if you do A NISTAKE as an aliied you are toast.

It means something, just not everything.

I completely disagree, it works both ways. They heavily out ranked you so simply had more to lose to start with.

I'm gonna watch the replay now.

No, if you make a mistake as a low level vs high level you are toast, it has nothing to do with which faction you are playing or going against.

Its really simple.

 Level = doctrine + vet (usually) + resources

This means they have tougher units, with doctrine abilities backing them, and more of them. So yea, I would expect that they can lose a couple to a mistake and still win. Thats not a balance problem, thats how it works in any PvP level based game.

AMPM watch the replay before you post, please.

Vet 3 Marder down?
My marder is still alive man, it never died that battle. Funny how easy it is to kill an 88 yet people still complain about it. I got 2 mandos on my 88 AGAIN!! We had to scuttle my own 88 AGAIN!

Lets get some things straight.  Axis is a general term.  PE are nowhere close to being "OP."

AMEN!!

People please POST AFTER YOU WATCHED THE REPLAY.

I dont need to watch the replay, I AM THE REPLAY!

I watched the replay. You guys had a good/great start, but at the 12 minute mark this game is over, you just didn't realize it.

You guys made huge mistakes, the first of which is probably the most blobbing I've ever seen in 1 game. Tank you yourself retreat 4 basically full health infantry squad, I didn't even get a chance to see why you did it, misclick?

The firestorm on the left at about 10 minutes was the turning point of the game and you never came close to recovering after that. You decrewed the 88 with mandos, re-crewed it with mandos and the axis blew it up with their own P4, even so the game was over at this point and the 88 didn't do much.

The KT was lost because of a poor decision on where to repair it, even so you lost a ton trying to kill it.

I didn't see a vet 3 marder die, even so it's just a marder.

I honestly suggest you watch the replay yourself, there is no ally uber micro in this game, although the axis did play like crap at the start.

There should be like a cooldown waiting period before posting a replay to 'prove' something much like buying a gun, I realize you may have been angry but making outrageous claims only reduces your credibility in the future, at least for me.

Funny how the only tactic i have seen work for it is a commando drop which is doctrine specific......i suppose and AB drop would work as well!!!!

Hardly the basis fo condeming the 88 to uselessness now is it! It rapes against pretty much anything else!

hahahahahah lol lmao.... ;D

I agree with Jazlizard, I didn't see anything that would warrant the label "Ubermicro".

Holt,

you watched the replay and if you didn´t see Ubermicro what did you see ? Why did the Axis won this ?

chill, 4v4s are a biatch for allied players.

 I think there are certain units on both sides you could call OP and when you spend your time putting some of those units together it can seem OP when on the receiving end.

 I played a game with Arkanadas he used 3 command tanks with some Shermans that completely kick the shit out of our whole side it was a 3v3, now i could say Shermans with command tanks are OP but I think its just when you use certain units that are gimmicky if you ever played madden its just like the money plays that people exploit..

 I chose to play the units I like while some people are looking for the most powerful unit for the best price, thats why when you see those gimik tactics that work alot of people will follow suit and start doing the same thing , if they never nerfed or fixed the boys AT you would see people spamming them to no end ...

Thats not the point here bubz. The balancing here is far from being flawless as you can see in the replay. Axis deserve far more nerfs then here and there...

Of course we had   good start by superior micro and advanced tactics.


Nope thats not true, I´ve seen  bigger blobs on the field.


Yes it was a misclick on keyboard :-(.


I honestly hope many people watch this replay and think about the state of balance this game is currently in. You can play as good as you want, use superior tactics, kill all stuff the axis war machine brings on the field, but AXIS WILL WIN!

so you mean the current win streak I, and other allies, have is fictitious?

I don't win every game as axis either.. doh!

i knew that 8 game airborne winning streak i had was in my head.

So Axis are underpowered? :o

Seriously tank you've over exaggerating. You had a good start cause the axis played like crap, any good player who watches  the start of the replay is going to be like "WTF are you doing axis!?" This had nothing to do with good strategies or advanced tactics but just outplaying your opponent.

You're really taking things to extremes here, I almost laughed out loud when you said the stug was OP when I watched the replay. It's obvious you were upset by the loss and came straight to the forums to complain about it and while I reserved final judgment till after I watched the replay it's clear to me now that this is exactly what happened.

You guys got destroyed cause you blobbed, blobbed, blobbed and didn't support each other very well once it became more then a 2v2. Turn team colors so that each player has his own color and you'll see what I mean you guys are constantly short units due to lack of coordination and units retreating in bunches. Once the triage center and bofors get created one player mostly just sits there.

In the end you guys made way more mistakes then they did and lost the game. I don't see how anyone can watch the replay and think otherwise, but that is just me.

I don't think he would listen to someone who is in the top three of wehrmacht leaderboard,  :D

My opinion is don't play 4v4s because axis players can support each others very easily and effectively with little effort and mistake-friendly, the more the players the less the flanking ways, thus allies are harder :D (the more the suppression of mg42 too xD)

You know I am sick of people saying Axis is overpowered. Stop saying axis guys, instead say Wehrmacht is overpowered; do not clump PE w/ Wehr plz.

You're right, and this goes the same for brits and americans.

The level of bias in this thread is ridiculous, watch the replay and comment on why the allies should have won this game, there isn't one, maybe if the game only lasted 8 minutes they would have won, it's too bad we don't have the score at the end.

Okay I´ll end this scharade now. I know a stug IS NOT OVERPOWERED.

I and the allied comrades played with level 2,3,5,3 Accounts against 4 Axis, where 3 had all tiersunlocked. We DIDNT USE any tactic and went things just straight on and even with all the good High Level Tier  Advantages and Stuff the Axis were not groundbreaking.

How would a fight end of Low Level Axis against High Level Allied Players. Could you win without micro and without tactic? Would you be able to kill a Calliope and 2  Pershings , etc.

The balancing issues are there. Allies are Easy Mode. ... Live with it.

Tank you retreated four full health tommy squads with vet and upgrades...

You were killing tigers, but losing a firefly/command tank for each... terrible firefly use this game. Churchill being ass did not help either.

After the great initial push you guys just got outplayed hardcore at almost every turn (except for one battle somewhere in the middle of the game where allies did pretty good before the Tiger came out).

Further, you got stomped all over so hard that thuglifebrian barely got touched all game. I think he lost the KT and like eight squads of mixed support and infantry plus a pak or two the entire game, that's like only a quarter of his army at most...

That's not what i meant!
You are trying to say Wehrmacht is OP but you keep saying AXIS. Axis = PE and Wehr and we all know PE is not OP (there are people who deny the truth). Say Wehrmacht is OP not Axis because you are bringing the whole crowd down.
Thank You.

Hey crimson , look at the above qote. All I DID SAY WAS IRONY. In fact I believe that Axis are underpowered at the current state.

And  that the crowd was brought down is a result of the bad tactics and the bad timing we used. But even as low level players against high level axis, without micro and without any tactics, just straight faceoffs you rape a lot of stuff, just because of one fact:

ALLIES ARE OVERPOWERED.

when u watch the replay u see some low skilled, low leveled allied players who rape high skilled, high ranked axis plqyers
axis didnt push them back to spawn easily. axis were pushed back easily at the beginning. allied hold the line the entire game easily.
the whole game allies tried to push back axis, not axis pushed allies.

low skill/rank allies>high skill/rank axis.

i didnt post here for the last 3 days because i hoped u will find this out on yourself....sad.

ALLIES ARE OVERPOWERED


lol, pore sole,
Hey Lai, Unk0wn, teach this kid that Allies are not Op,

Allies are balanced
Wher is balanced
Pe is almost Balanced
Birts... I dont know, I don't play them

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I don't know about you, but those aren't exactly the names I would think of for "Axis Pro" or "High skill".

I match most of them, and I'm only moderately good.  When a game like this comes up plastering Killer, Malevolence, Gamesguy, Elitegren, or someone like that, then I'll reconsider.  Everyone in this game has exploitable flaws in their styles.  Crimson's being the fact that he's Crimson.  :P

(Come get my priest, little boy!)

man.... I'll feel bad for your priest the day you face IHTs + Gas supply + double schreckers lol.

I feel bad for my priest most games, man. *laughs*