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Title: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2010, 05:35:24 pm
Level 7 with 26 Wins and 2 draws... Hows that possible? 

With all the launcher reportign issues....


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: deadbolt on June 10, 2010, 05:36:13 pm
mad hacks, i got mad hacks yo'

28-0 with no losses is fun too, vs lvl6+


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2010, 05:37:39 pm
And how?  you 600 XP to get to LEvel 7...  26 games you need 23XP per game..

Explain that math.,...  PLease


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Smokaz on June 10, 2010, 05:41:11 pm
If he got 28 wins with 20 xp per game, he would be at 560 xp


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2010, 05:42:07 pm
So he got 4 reward points he spent oN XP... Thoghut those weren;t suppose to be handed out yet?  Said EIRR mod gave them to him....


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: deadbolt on June 10, 2010, 05:43:01 pm
ive been doin alot for the mod lately, and i was owed some anyway.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2010, 05:43:10 pm
20XP per win...  So why does Maysausce have 28wins 10 losses and only 290 XP...

Its only 20 xp if your level 1 and they are level 9....  Its less if your a higher level or they are lower...  


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: vivie5 on June 10, 2010, 05:48:56 pm
There are not that many high level Axis out there.

As well, most games I have seen are you and computer stomping noob accounts.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2010, 06:16:17 pm
There are not that many high level Axis out there.

As well, most games I have seen are you and computer stomping noob accounts.

WQould a mmod look at that account because the rest of us are suffering through a grind only to see someone not have to seems a bit unreal


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: deadbolt on June 10, 2010, 06:20:18 pm
are you sour because you got stomped............. again puddin  ;)


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: gamesguy2 on June 10, 2010, 06:27:57 pm
There are not that many high level Axis out there.

As well, most games I have seen are you and computer stomping noob accounts.

WQould a mmod look at that account because the rest of us are suffering through a grind only to see someone not have to seems a bit unreal

The account is legit, he probably played a lot of high level players.  Stomping newbies don't give much xp.

Also remember all accounts got reset to lvl 3, so he could've started at lvl 3.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: vivie5 on June 10, 2010, 06:40:06 pm
Accounts were also retroactively set back based upon a certain amount of experience per game played.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Dragon2008 on June 10, 2010, 06:41:38 pm
There are not that many high level Axis out there.

As well, most games I have seen are you and computer stomping noob accounts.

WQould a mmod look at that account because the rest of us are suffering through a grind only to see someone not have to seems a bit unreal

The account is legit, he probably played a lot of high level players.  Stomping newbies don't give much xp.

Also remember all accounts got reset to lvl 3, so he could've started at lvl 3.

Doubt it cos all accounts with a certain amount of games played got put to a certain rank. AKA I lost an entire rank cos I didnt play enough games :(


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2010, 07:10:05 pm
Its LEgit yet everyone whos posted doesn;t think so.... PLease explain to me how its possible..  

Also why Reward points were handed out?


My accounts didn;t get put to level 3... 


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Masacree on June 10, 2010, 07:15:19 pm
ive been doin alot for the mod lately, and i was owed some anyway.

Keeps himself admits its not legit.

Et tu Keeps?

(http://hotfile.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/caesar-brutus.jpg)


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Smokaz on June 10, 2010, 07:15:50 pm
gamesguy overrides pleb opinion?

 8)

 im certain the other mods have checked in silence.

 keeps gets special treatment in eirr, other people take shots for rabies or ride in a wheelchair.

 its social democracy at it's best

keeps gave eirr the top10 vcoh ladder advertisement through his endless grind - he's entitled to a little mercy and gifts


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Killer344 on June 10, 2010, 07:16:23 pm
lol



Everyone's account were put to lvl 3 regardless of their rank some weeks/day (don't remember exactly) ago, there was a bug with the reward points.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Masacree on June 10, 2010, 07:17:27 pm
lol



Everyone's account were put to lvl 3 regardless of their rank some weeks/day (don't remember exactly) ago, there was a bug with the reward points.

Mine got reset.

I don't know about everyone else's.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Dragon2008 on June 10, 2010, 07:20:51 pm
lol



Everyone's account were put to lvl 3 regardless of their rank some weeks/day (don't remember exactly) ago, there was a bug with the reward points.

Mine got reset.

I don't know about everyone else's.

Same here  >:(


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Killer344 on June 10, 2010, 07:21:30 pm
What do you mean with just "reset"?


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Masacree on June 10, 2010, 07:22:22 pm
For a while I was level 3 (due to the bug had like 2 games) then sent back to level 1, then worked my way up to now level 3 again (IIRC).


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Smokaz on June 10, 2010, 07:25:25 pm
For a while I was level 3 (due to the bug had like 2 games) then sent back to level 1, then worked my way up to now level 3 again (IIRC).

Same here but i ended up with like 90 pps on each of those level 1s


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: vivie5 on June 10, 2010, 07:27:21 pm
It was.. EIRR mod and someone else who fixed the exp after that bug, that readjusted the levels, all those bug level 3's went back to level 1 generally.

So how did he earn more than 23.5xp per game?


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Killer344 on June 10, 2010, 07:28:12 pm
huh..

Well, looking into all accounts and fix them will take more time than coding in the new grind (which will be somewhat time based). Some people got lucky and received a rank bump, others less rank but extra pps, I guess you'll have to live with it for now.

The reward points bug that caused the reset was fixed, the accounts were "magically" set to lvl 3, there's no way to make sure all of them were fixed.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: gamesguy2 on June 10, 2010, 07:30:44 pm
Apparently you can buy xp with reward points, didn't even know that.

Some people got reward points for that competition held a couple of weeks ago I guess.

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Keeps himself admits its not legit.

Et tu Keeps?

Why does it even matter?  If he had four T4s I'd be concerned, but skipping a few levels because he did some work for the mod?


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: vivie5 on June 10, 2010, 07:34:18 pm
To my knowledge no one who won the competitive for most games played on the weekend before new launcher got any reward points.

Also the reward points to xp scales down with company level...
and beyond that the higher level you are the harder it is to get xp (noted by many level 7-8-9's i know getting 5xp per game, or less).


Every account active during that bug received 100xp and kept them. Xp was fixed.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Dragon2008 on June 10, 2010, 07:42:55 pm

Every account active during that bug received 100xp and kept them. Xp was fixed.

Say wat??? All my companies didn't keep the extra XP. In fact my Airborne company lost XP when it got fixed. >:(


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Killer344 on June 10, 2010, 07:45:02 pm
Because it wasn't fixed, sigh, there is no way to fully revert a change like that.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Masacree on June 10, 2010, 07:46:49 pm

Why does it even matter?  If he had four T4s I'd be concerned, but skipping a few levels because he did some work for the mod?

What has keeps done for the mod other than farm vet?

But part of the reason why it matters - the dev team maintains that it has stopped doing these sorts of things. But who ever cared about lying to the plebs?

btw - I've done things for this mod - I sectored all of whiteflash's maps without so much as a thank you. And if I got patrician rights I guess I'd stop whining.

Meh - perhaps I should stop with these crusades. I don't mean to stir up shit. I really appreciate the work EIRRmod and the rest of the dev team have put in making 2.0 a reality. I just dislike seeing parasites exploit the system. Just trying to keep everyone honest.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: gamesguy2 on June 10, 2010, 07:50:02 pm

Why does it even matter?  If he had four T4s I'd be concerned, but skipping a few levels because he did some work for the mod?

What has keeps done for the mod other than farm vet?

But part of the reason why it matters - the dev team maintains that it has stopped doing these sorts of things. But who ever cared about lying to the plebs?

btw - I've done things for this mod - I sectored all of whiteflash's maps without so much as a thank you. And if I got patrician rights I guess I'd stop whining.

Meh - perhaps I should stop with these crusades. I don't mean to stir up shit. I really appreciate the work EIRRmod and the rest of the dev team have put in making 2.0 a reality. I just dislike seeing parasites exploit the system. Just trying to keep everyone honest.

I dunno, certain people got reward points for something they helped with, I'm not sure exactly what it was though.

Patrician rights?


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Killer344 on June 10, 2010, 07:56:14 pm

Why does it even matter?  If he had four T4s I'd be concerned, but skipping a few levels because he did some work for the mod?

What has keeps done for the mod other than farm vet?

Because he has an account on vCoH ladder called wwwEuropeInRuinscom?

(http://i.imagehost.org/t/0718/cheroof-20100610-225244.jpg) (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0718/cheroof-20100610-225244)

But part of the reason why it matters - the dev team maintains that it has stopped doing these sorts of things. But who ever cared about lying to the plebs?

huh... EiR isn't a democracy... never was.

btw - I've done things for this mod - I sectored all of whiteflash's maps without so much as a thank you. And if I got patrician rights I guess I'd stop whining.

You were part of EiR's mapping team, if you want to come back you know what to do.




Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: tank130 on June 10, 2010, 07:58:01 pm
Can I buy PP's.....lol


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2010, 08:01:47 pm
Never mind i suppose


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: lionel23 on June 10, 2010, 08:05:26 pm
Wait wait wait, what the heck Killer, seriously you're going to pull that BS?  Reward points are not supposed to be given out and he should have his account retroactively adjusted and not given a free pass while everyone else has had to deal with the 2-5xp games.  I am owed 3 competitions worth of reward points and I've spoken to EIRR about it, and he doesn't want to reward them cause they are still being balanced and what not.  This is almost as bad as the Test Account issue with all those testers being given free accounts to stomp people who - as they all said - was with your permission to do that.

I don't mind devs and mods having accounts to play with against themselves for testing and balance, but to have those accounts used against the general community I think is a big no-no.  And I'm still waiting for that dispute to be taken care of with deadbolt too, and the shit he tries to pull with that.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: gamesguy2 on June 10, 2010, 08:07:14 pm
IIRC some people were given points to help test the reward units, and instead of deleting their points, they were just told not to use the units in regular EIR till the full system goes in.

Not sure how keeps got them though.

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This is almost as bad as the Test Account issue with all those testers being given free accounts to stomp people who - as they all said - was with your permission to do that.

They really weren't supposed to do that.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: vivie5 on June 10, 2010, 08:08:35 pm
Those of us who tested points with Burn and Eirrmod had the units and points taken away after testing.

Both of them made it very clear we were not to use the units given by them, or use the points for anything else during testing.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Groundfire on June 10, 2010, 08:11:43 pm
So... um, looking back through the 3 pages of nonsense, only keeps has said he got "something" for by working for the mod.

Nobody important has said absolutely anything about reward points and puddin then just jumps to some random conclusion through pure speculation because keeps wrote a vauge sentence on that he was given something at some point.

honestly, keeps bullshits alot.

Im laughing at all you fourm noobs right now, and you can all ride away on your little bandwagon you got there


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2010, 08:12:14 pm
IIRC some people were given points to help test the reward units, and instead of deleting their points, they were just told not to use the units in regular EIR till the full system goes in.

Not sure how keeps got them though.

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This is almost as bad as the Test Account issue with all those testers being given free accounts to stomp people who - as they all said - was with your permission to do that.

They really weren't supposed to do that.

Ironically how i Was testing them, Still ahve 3 Reward points sitting in My Blitz account, And i never used them ebcause I knew and was told that they were not to be used.  

Lional, Me, And Jo, and EIR mod tested them, They were all removed, forgot to remove mine, And magically, is till have all 3 sitting there...  

Amazing How that happened.  


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: puddin on June 10, 2010, 08:12:45 pm
So... um, looking back through the 3 pages of nonsense, only keeps has said he got "something" for by working for the mod.

Nobody important has said absolutely anything about reward points cept puddin who just jumped to some random conclusion through pure speculation because keeps wrote a vauge sentence on that he was given something at sometimes.

honestly, keeps bullshits alot.

Im laughing at all you fourm noobs right now, and you can all ride away on your little bandwagon you got there

Amazing how Keeps admited reward points....  Ground...


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Killer344 on June 10, 2010, 08:14:20 pm
Lionel, I don't fucking care because I simply can't do anything about it, the person who gave it to him is way higher than me. I'm just defending him because I'm sure he had his reasons to do it.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Groundfire on June 10, 2010, 08:14:53 pm
meh, who cares tbh.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Masacree on June 10, 2010, 08:15:36 pm
meh, who cares tbh.

Already answered that question.

Oughta read the thread tbh.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Groundfire on June 10, 2010, 08:16:56 pm
meh, who cares tbh.

Already answered that question.

Oughta read the thread tbh.

I did read the thread and you guys are making a mountain outta a molehill.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: lionel23 on June 10, 2010, 08:21:42 pm
Lionel, I don't fucking care because I simply can't do anything about it, the person who gave it to him is way higher than me. I'm just defending him because I'm sure he had his reasons to do it.

Okay I have issue with you seriously going down to cursing and the like just because you don't care but other people do have issue with this?  I honestly find that is the wrong attitude to have, especially as a Mod.

In addition, something CAN be done about it as Burn clearly did when we were done testing the those points were removed.  But hey, he clearly can get special treatment too right? I'm still waiting for that dispute to be resolved with him trying to get us banned or punished for him dodging that game.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: FailHammer on June 10, 2010, 08:27:15 pm
Guys are going a tad overboard. Sure fuck keeps, but he has done his grind in vanilla. Bigger scheme of things not a big deal. This mod still rules. The devs/ceasars are human and make mistakes, this isnt RL, this isnt a corp that you can fire the board as shareholders. That being said the big cats shouldnt fuck around but i think they are doing a smash job. Carry on.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: vivie5 on June 10, 2010, 08:30:15 pm
Holy shit puddin, you just critted him in the face


But enough of this, onto the balance!


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: deadbolt on June 10, 2010, 08:30:32 pm
Rankin eir account to promote, getting players to join the mod, efforts of mapping, in the midst of making a promo video, sat in GR promoting the mod to gain more players and expand the community, helping out new players. I guess thats not enough, i know im percieved as a forum troll and i dont give a shit if my work goes unnoticed, im doin whats best for the mod and expanding. What are you guys doing? bitching and whining and complaining. So what if i used 4reward points to gain like 90xp? i could of used them on the tiger ace and abused other broken units but i didnt, believe it or not im helping the mod alot more than you guys and ill be damned if i give a shit what a whiney little bitch fag has to say cos i stomped some good players. If anythin your the one who farms shit puddin, you quit most games before the 10 minute mark. I got this legit, now hush hush little child and go qq some place else.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: gamesguy2 on June 10, 2010, 08:35:59 pm
IIRC some people were given points to help test the reward units, and instead of deleting their points, they were just told not to use the units in regular EIR till the full system goes in.

Not sure how keeps got them though.

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This is almost as bad as the Test Account issue with all those testers being given free accounts to stomp people who - as they all said - was with your permission to do that.

They really weren't supposed to do that.

Ironically how i Was testing them, Still ahve 3 Reward points sitting in My Blitz account, And i never used them ebcause I knew and was told that they were not to be used.  

Lional, Me, And Jo, and EIR mod tested them, They were all removed, forgot to remove mine, And magically, is till have all 3 sitting there...  

Amazing How that happened.  

Why are you bitching at me...

Personally I feel that since this seems to be a huge issue for some people, and in the interest of transparency, we should have a thread where everyone who got reward points or extra xp or whatever are posted.  That way everyone can clearly see who got what for doing what.

IMO people who do work for the mod should be rewarded.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: BigDick on June 10, 2010, 08:39:23 pm
omg what is up with this drama queen, i can really imagine how he sounded in vent squeaking like a bitch while being fucked from behind

he can be glad not having had to fight the broken sherman jumbos graham the attack bear had in his company some days ago :D


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: lionel23 on June 10, 2010, 08:41:02 pm
I agree, total transparency would definitely solve this problem!  And let's not forget it really does need to include everyone who has helped, as I have had a few nasty words thrown in my direction because I'm PR like it's some stigma to be in PR and trying to help out.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Killer344 on June 10, 2010, 08:47:00 pm
In addition, something CAN be done about it as Burn clearly did when we were done testing the those points were removed.  But hey, he clearly can get special treatment too right? I'm still waiting for that dispute to be resolved with him trying to get us banned or punished for him dodging that game.

Starting a game without the consent of all players (regardless of anything, there is a reason why the "ready up" button exists) sounds like farming, why don't you mind your own business for your own good?


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Computer991 on June 10, 2010, 08:50:29 pm
lol this thread is funny the people who are complaining haven't done shit for this mod,HEY LIONEL WHEN YOU CAN GET A LEVEL 20 ACCOUNT TO THE TOP OF LEADERBOARD AND KEEP IT THERE FOR WEEKS ADVERTISING EIRR then come back and complain but till then you haven't done shit.

same goes to you puddin,get over it.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: lionel23 on June 10, 2010, 08:52:37 pm
In addition, something CAN be done about it as Burn clearly did when we were done testing the those points were removed.  But hey, he clearly can get special treatment too right? I'm still waiting for that dispute to be resolved with him trying to get us banned or punished for him dodging that game.

Starting a game without the consent of all players (regardless of anything, there is a reason why the "ready up" button exists) sounds like farming, why don't you mind your own business for your own good?

Oh really you want to start this Killer? It was agreed by the allied team to start because the rest of the allies were ditching, I'm willing to go all the way with this one if I need to prove my point of some disrespectful attitudes not only by Computer and Deadbolt but also yourself too.

lol this thread is funny the people who are complaining haven't done shit for this mod,HEY LIONEL WHEN YOU CAN GET A LEVEL 20 ACCOUNT TO THE TOP OF LEADERBOARD AND KEEP IT THERE FOR WEEKS ADVERTISING EIRR then come back and complain but till then you haven't done shit.

same goes to you puddin,get over it.

And it's shit like this that should NOT BE TOLERATED under any conditions. Really he's going to put himself on a pedastal after you DITCHED ME ON YOUR PR DUTIES and kindly left me all the work to do while you went off and did other shit willy nilly?  And I thought you were kicked out of PR like twice already too. I would say you haven't done shit either if you want to go there.  I could have been a lvl 20 on the leaderboards if I really wanted to, but that was when you had people like Richard77 and stuff exploiting their way up there since they had no life and I do.  If I could stay home all day and do that I would gladly do it for the Mod as I do indeed love EIRR but some people, such as yourself, have no respect for others and can't even have a reasonable conversation without condemning someone first.  If attitudes like yourself are representative of the entire mod team, then I am greatly worried about the success of this mod.  Rude attitudes and disrespectul and unsportsman like behavior should not be tolerated, especially by public members of the team like Killer and you, Computer.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: arsonist123 on June 10, 2010, 09:00:38 pm
Lock thread :)
 Thats just anarchy guys. I disagree with all of you. both sides are wrong. :) gg


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Killer344 on June 10, 2010, 09:06:38 pm
C'mon Lionel, he at least had the decency to make the tutorial videos. You haven't done a thing afaik. Too many "could" but not even one "done".


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: spinn72 on June 10, 2010, 09:07:40 pm
/facepalm


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: lionel23 on June 10, 2010, 09:10:38 pm
Oh you didn't go there, I was part of documentation when Wind and Computer decided to drop doing work and give it to me so they could play and rack up games in EIRR.  I was also involved in the public meetings and getting feedback, recording and did a good many of the doctrine reworks since a few people who got assigned them were busy, which I can understand with how small the team is and how no one is paid, that I understand.

What I don't appreciate is your unprofessionalism and having the gale to say I haven't done crap for this mod.  What do you know of what I do? You haven't really given any assistance or guidance to the PR team at all, and I'm not the only PR member who thinks so.  What have you done to assist this section, hm?  I haven't seen you come over and help us ONCE while working on that stuff.  And not to mention, I won't name names, but other members of this mod laughing at how we're 'PR' and that doesn't really make us part of the team because we're not coders, really this sort of elitism and a sorry excuse for such unprofessional like conduct should NEVER be accepted or condoned in a team environment.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: Dragon2008 on June 10, 2010, 09:11:02 pm
In before the lock  ;D


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: gamesguy2 on June 10, 2010, 09:24:22 pm
Yeah locked, this topic is getting way out of hand.


Title: Re: Grham the Attack bear
Post by: EIRRMod on June 10, 2010, 10:19:28 pm
So he got 4 reward points he spent oN XP... Thoghut those weren;t suppose to be handed out yet?  Said EIRR mod gave them to him....
Locked topic, but I couldnt give a fuck.

He gained 10 reward points from AGES ago that he was / could spend on XP/PP.