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Title: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: MittinsKittens on July 29, 2010, 11:13:46 am
I hope this is fine here, If not, then please move it to the correct place please.
Question1:- Hetzer Spotter Scopes, What do they actually do? Is it just more LoS, because I'm wondering if its worth taking them on my 3 Hetzers or should I put my munitions into more teller mines or what not...
Question2:-What is a good distance to keep PG's with G43's at and don't just say "Mid-Long" range because I don't know what that is in terms of CoH logic. If someone could give me a screeny of a good engagement distance, or even just tell me the width of the screen to keep them at (like, Keep the half a screen apart).

Thanks for looking at these questions, and special thanks to those who know the answer and answer my questions :D


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: Grundwaffe on July 29, 2010, 11:19:38 am
Question1:- Hetzer Spotter Scopes, What do they actually do? Is it just more LoS, because I'm wondering if its worth taking them on my 3 Hetzers or should I put my munitions into more teller mines or what not...
Hetzer spotter scopes works just as in Vcoh i belive, you get a better distance and some chance of spotting armor.

Question2:-What is a good distance to keep PG's with G43's at and don't just say "Mid-Long" range because I don't know what that is in terms of CoH logic. If someone could give me a screeny of a good engagement distance, or even just tell me the width of the screen to keep them at (like, Keep the half a screen apart).
PG's with G43 works short and long range only, works best short with doctrine buffs for it thou i suggest you do it long range in cover or in buildings, thats what i do and the allies falls like flies.

And meh, i don't feel like screening try to picture it. :D


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: Mysthalin on July 29, 2010, 11:23:30 am
Hetzer Spotter Scope : +10 Range and Sight. Pretty self explanatory, really.

G43s work fine at all ranges, really. If you want long range - keep at the edge of your LOS, and you'll maintain long range, more or less so. If you want short range - let them come close(because charging with rifles isn't the best idea in the world).


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: Grundwaffe on July 29, 2010, 11:26:51 am
Yup, by short i mean when activating something in your doc im not quite sure what it was i saw AmPm used it at me and my ally for a long time ago, they fired like machine guns lol..

But munition halftrack try that close to G43, they fire faster and realods faster.


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: EliteGren on July 29, 2010, 11:35:05 am
Hetzer scope is the best tank upgrade in the game. You should NEVER play Hetzers without scopes.


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: MittinsKittens on July 29, 2010, 12:08:04 pm
Oh, ok, so I better try and find a way to put spotter scopes back onto my hetzers. Was a bit of a mistake of taking them off. Thought it was only extra los.
And thanks for the tips on how to use G43's. Hopefully this will improve my game :)
Thanks for the replies everyone <3


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: Smokaz on July 29, 2010, 12:09:06 pm
I hope this is fine here, If not, then please move it to the correct place please.
Question1:- Hetzer Spotter Scopes, What do they actually do? Is it just more LoS, because I'm wondering if its worth taking them on my 3 Hetzers or should I put my munitions into more teller mines or what not...
Question2:-What is a good distance to keep PG's with G43's at and don't just say "Mid-Long" range because I don't know what that is in terms of CoH logic. If someone could give me a screeny of a good engagement distance, or even just tell me the width of the screen to keep them at (like, Keep the half a screen apart).

Thanks for looking at these questions, and special thanks to those who know the answer and answer my questions :D

1.  Get scope if you plan for standoff's and not supporting the hetzer with shreks. Hetzer can be a good slugger against both td's and mediums if you bring a shrek to support since their deal is mainly the good armor

2.  The second they actually start firing, thats long range for sure.


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: Demon767 on July 29, 2010, 04:10:23 pm
with spotter scopes they have slightly less range than a firefly!!

so use that to your advantage


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: MittinsKittens on July 29, 2010, 04:15:32 pm
mmm...Never seem to have that sort of range though :o
Or is that because the "Auto firing" range is actually shorter then its full range and I need to start selecting targets?


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: EliteGren on July 29, 2010, 04:19:26 pm
Nope


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: Demon767 on July 29, 2010, 04:23:02 pm
no you just need sight.

you have more range than your Hetzer LOS

So just do what i always do

Have pzgrens scouting while your hetzer snipes at the back, include mortar to blow out entrenched positions


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: MittinsKittens on July 29, 2010, 04:25:15 pm
Seriously? Then why the flip don't they fire when until they are IN my LoS (this is with the Spotting Scope).
Mmm...
Meh, I don't know xD


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: LeoPhone on July 29, 2010, 04:40:17 pm
Hetzer scope is the best tank upgrade in the game. You should NEVER play Hetzers without scopes.

would be better if hetzers gain the extra range as a basic and spotting scopes only give extra sight. just to keep noobs from having useless hetzers + it makes 100 times more sense.
just like the extra hp on LVs became a standard, this should too.


Title: Re: 2 Quick Questions...
Post by: bbsmith on August 02, 2010, 04:41:44 pm
Scope is one of those things that might as well come basic on the unit.