Title: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Duckordie on August 19, 2007, 11:39:27 am Ok, I have tried this for a time now, And with this I mean 3-4 days. So don’t bring up any old stuff… :(
I just had a game and did use my new tactic again, note tomorrow I hade this for 3 weeks. The only problem with my tactics that I get “DUCKORDIE!!! YOU FUCKING NOOB!! ”OOOOH DUCK OR DIE IS THE WORST PLAYER” And “Duck or die is the best allied player, and still he is Axis” And so on, witch makes me sad, Now I know I am not elite at micro or what you guys call it. Now, at my last game I did not have any Tanks, only 4 Flakpanzer IV (Ostwind) Because three reasons, the tanks is one, almost always destroyed, two, Stupid, they don’t do exactly what you tell them to do, three, M10 always lurks the Conner. :-\ Before (some one) comes here, I just say it, Yeah, I fucked away 2 Flak panzer, because so many things happed at the same time and I could not do everything at the same time. So that was a waste, the other one got blown up. The third one got hit by howitzer. (And also take with him a Panther, and I still clams that that was not my fault. Any way, just say this before the flaming. Any way, my Tactics are simple, don’t use tank and only use anti stuff, ex: Anti tank, anti Infantry, anti this and anti that. A lot of snipers and Nebbels. With this you can if you do it right always do right, the problem no one dose this and this looks odd. There for people start complaining. So I just ask, is it OK to use your own Tactics? Or do you have to do like every one ells? Because I can do that, and that way I will Bring the normal stuff, volks, Panzer 4, Panther, And so on. Now, this is a Pic of my last game: Note I did do some friendly fire and killed 3 volks… That’s all. And with them I got 2 Anti guns. Now Is this bad I mean? 155 kills and lost 67… That’s not that bad. I got the howitzer to. :-* The problem with my Tactics, is that it takes to muck time, and there for A LOT of all battles I am not there for the view, because I have to look other places, that’s makes why my tanks just drive away, bec I am not following them, that why I made my Poster, “Stay away from me” I Really would love a “Hold ground” Bottom, so they will STAY and not move even though they get attacked or “defend place” So they don’t run to far away, NOTE: I am not MAD ay any one :), I am just cheking out :), by the way, Unkn0wn PM and told me some stuff, that will help me improve my game play, thanks Unkn0wn I do this bec I have now players ho wont play with me… Don’t know why ??? (http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7349/relic00001vn1.jpg) (http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8936/relic00002uf3.jpg) Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is RONG Post by: Unkn0wn on August 19, 2007, 11:42:11 am No you just pissed me off because you brought 4 flakpanzers who didn't do jack shit in total.
(While a panzer IV or panther is clearly a better choice, flakpanzers are crap against armour you know) It doesn't work basing yourself just on Anti Tank infantry. Every proper strategy needs a tank ;). The nebelwerfers were awesome and got you all those kills, the flakpanzers are a very replacable part of your strategy. (You only need 1 and you should've kept it with your nebels because they really tear apart airbourne.) Also i'll always like you just because you bought CoH for EiR ;). Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is wRONG Post by: Lai on August 19, 2007, 11:47:33 am Haha, funniest thread today.
Can we get some in-game TS-quotes? I'm sure unkn0wn was pissed about something ;D ;D Duck or die is the best allied player, and still he is Axis You will learn to keep track of your units and move your tanks properly. Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is wRONG Post by: Unkn0wn on August 19, 2007, 11:58:12 am The best part was probably his flakpanzer blocking off the damaged panther between the repair bunkers when the artillery hit... Flakpanzer got pwned, 5% bug on panther, main gun knocked off but survived.
Then the panther tried to roll back, airbourne got dropped in and the tiger killed the panther trying to shoot the freaking airbourne. Oh god that was the most hilarious TK scene ever. Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is wRONG Post by: Duckordie on August 19, 2007, 11:58:37 am Yeah, I am like a Baybe at this game 8), Like the part i Use my Golith and blow up a Panther, it was my 3rd game in this game, and had that that big clue of what it could do, thot it where for blowing up briges, but I Dont use those more... I Kinda do more damge with them than they do good (By best kill with a Goliath is still 3 Ranger squads runing to home) ::)
Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is wRONG Post by: Days of War on August 19, 2007, 12:04:10 pm I'm more pissed at Unkn0wn for TKing my vet 2 Panther.
Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is wRONG Post by: Lai on August 19, 2007, 12:13:31 pm Ouch
Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is wRONG Post by: Unkn0wn on August 19, 2007, 12:19:07 pm If you weren't in the middle of that artillery barrage because of Duck or Die and would've actually rolled your panther back further instead of keeping it in the middle of some airbourne troops the Tiger Ace wouldn't have actually been able to even miss that horribly.
Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is wRONG Post by: Compact Flash on August 19, 2007, 12:21:42 pm Nothing wrong wwasn't in this experimenting ... though I'm glad I wasn't in this battle with all the TKing that happened lol...
Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Jazlizard on August 19, 2007, 02:57:26 pm I think trying to find your own playstyle and tactics are cool. I think there ARE definetly some tactics that just don't work.
I think 4 flaks is a bit much, and you should probably trade at least 2 of those out for some pIV's or something. The only thing I hate is people who play with totally ridiculous companies in a serious game and by silly I mean like 1000 volks and like nothing else or a million flamming pio's etc. Otherwise feel free to continue to try stuff that works for you, it sounds like you'd be great at supporting folks with support weapons like nebels and stuckas etc. They don't require too much micro and when properly used and protected can be a major pain in the ass to your opponent. Just let your teammates know ahead of time what type of role/company you'll be bringing to the fight, and I'm sure that will go a long way towards people enjoying playing with you. I know I for one hate getting into a game and my partner says 'I have no AT' or something like that, it's really annoying and totally changes the way I have to play, especially if my company isn't very strong in that department either. Anyways I'm sure Unkn0wn had some good tips for you as well. Bottom line is your micro/macro will probably get better the more you play and the types of companies you can build and actually play well will grow as you become more comfortable with CoH and EiR. Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Unkn0wn on August 19, 2007, 04:35:21 pm I never said stormtroopers suck, I said unupgraded and by using them as a main infantry unit they suck btw ;).
Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Apex on August 19, 2007, 08:17:27 pm Just follow some simple guidelines when playing axis with duck:
- Never turn the back of your tank towards him - Shoot Goliaths on sight - If you hear a Nebel, run Then you should never have any trouble with him Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Lai on August 19, 2007, 08:47:37 pm - Always keep his tank in front of yours, where you can watch him.
Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Days of War on August 19, 2007, 10:48:58 pm -Watch out for his fatty blocking Ostwinds.
Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Coti on August 20, 2007, 05:31:19 am I also bought Company of heroes for EiR!!!!!
WHERE IS MY MEDAL?! ??? Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Lai on August 20, 2007, 05:49:30 am Nice one Coti. :D
That's two swedes that bought CoH just for EiR... fldash is very pleased with how Sweden is coming through. Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Duckordie on August 20, 2007, 06:05:55 am I also bought Company of heroes for EiR!!!!! WHERE IS MY MEDAL?! ??? Medal? Medal?!! What a fuck are you taking about?! I Don´t have a medal i have a dam fotprint in my ass! I am sure to hell thats not a medal! And not a Iron cross Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: ReqiumMass on August 22, 2007, 05:04:15 pm Its in the mail Coti. But seriously, Panthers seem to own so much allied ass, especially with Armour Plating, just so long as you don't turn your back at all costs.
Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Unkn0wn on August 22, 2007, 05:09:19 pm Actually without German Steel panthers are pretty crappy.
That is of course if you actually attack with them, exposing your flanks & rear... If you let panthers defend and take shots up front they're pretty powerful. Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Thtb-Ally on August 25, 2007, 05:42:07 am Insanly power full if your as unlucky as me.
I attacked a Phanter (with Skirts w/e GS) with 2 m10´s beautifully in a open place driving around it one m10 on each side evry m10 fired 3 shoots on the run, first two obvilously bounced off the front armor the next 2 (1 form each side ) bounced of the side armor the next 2 (in the rear) bounced off from the rear doing like 5/100 dmg Phanter turns around i repeat. "Enter same here" Phanter surives nearly unharmed molesting me for the rest of the game. Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Duckordie on August 25, 2007, 06:34:16 am Insanly power full if your as unlucky as me. 'I attacked a Phanter (with Skirts w/e GS) with 2 m10´s beautifully in a open place driving around it one m10 on each side evry m10 fired 3 shoots on the run, first two obvilously bounced off the front armor the next 2 (1 form each side ) bounced of the side armor the next 2 (in the rear) bounced off from the rear doing like 5/100 dmg Phanter turns around i repeat. "Enter same here" Phanter surives nearly unharmed molesting me for the rest of the game. Wow.... Thats sounds odd... I Allways run with my panther if i see a M10 I never fight tanks against tanks if its not a must Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: CommanderNewbie on August 25, 2007, 11:51:08 am Wow.... Thats sounds odd... I Allways run with my panther if i see a M10 I never fight tanks against tanks if its not a must Panthers were made to fight tanks ;) Compared to, say, the PzIV, the Panther has lower anti-infantry capabilities. Yes, they even mow down M10s if you keep your rear covered. Last time I played Axis and used a Panther, I think I killed 6 M10s in a game with at least a third my HP left and no repairs. Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: GeneralSteve on August 26, 2007, 11:01:45 am Well, I was experimenting with demo charges on Montherme, managed to lure a Panther with a croc straight into a demo charge. It took off about half its health and then hitted a mine trying to retreat. Then my opponent bought in a Grenadier squad to help cover his panther and they ran into a mine that caused the Panther's engines to get fully destroyed. I then bought a M10 up that easily destroyed the Panther. I would have even saved a replay if my teammate didn't drop and caused us to lose the game.
While were on the subject of tanks, I think Shermans should get somekind of armor upgrade. Smoke seems pretty useless and I'd rather have armor skirts or something else. Title: Re: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG Post by: Thtb on August 28, 2007, 03:19:49 am Insanly power full if your as unlucky as me. I attacked a Phanter (with Skirts w/e GS) with 2 m10´s beautifully in a open place driving around it one m10 on each side evry m10 fired 3 shoots on the run, first two obvilously bounced off the front armor the next 2 (1 form each side ) bounced of the side armor the next 2 (in the rear) bounced off from the rear doing like 5/100 dmg Phanter turns around i repeat. "Enter same here" Phanter surives nearly unharmed molesting me for the rest of the game. Now after soem more games on the other side: I litally owned 4 full health Shermans with a singel Phanter without GS or Sideskirts First 2 came at once than 1 more and then the last Had about 1/4 life left and no engine damage And i finished all shermen beisdes one witch i let live with destryoed maingun |