COH: Europe In Ruins

Since the AB doc isnt out and since Condors thread was such a hit, Id like to try to keep from going all asymetric warfare again.

On my list
AB sniper- already has AB armor. Cloak/Fireup makes him too hard to kill. Take out AB armor.
AB medic - too hard to kill. regen for unit itself is too high. make it regen when not in combat.
Easy Co - No.

No AB sniper period. AB already get the hit-and-run capabilities of Airborne, the main-line fighting units capabilites of AB Rifles, and the hold-the-line defensive style of support weapons. They don't also need a sneaky-sneaky unit that can't be touched due to Fire Up and AB armor.

Falls is the new AB ^^

except they dont have broken off maps...and mobile healing station...and blobing for them means death...

No Grenades and Satchels on Cooldown pl0x.

Nothing awsome as a tier 1 that comes for free.

No god damn cloak

Suppose that works.

Make them suffer penalty for blobbing.

Also remove AB mines :P

So basically everything currently added to AB is broken. except for AB rifles maybe? even the vcoh offmaps are OP i read here.

But then what doctrines should AB get? there is nothing left to give them! maybe move the t17 to AB for raiding operations and supporting RRs?

EDIT: didn't see the 'anti' D:

How about no airborne riflemen? Make it old school.

+1
Not adding things to certain doctrines that specifically and intentionally lack something with that capability would be nice. Airborne is and has always been the AT doctrine with its awesome RRs and paradropped AT guns, and is supposed to be lacking a hardcore AI unit. Now they get AB Rifles, BARs, HMGs, Mortars, Snipers... I guess Strafe wasn't enough??

In COHO you have to unlock doctrine abilities like Recon, satchels, grenades, the 6 men squad, etc.

For recon it's done like:

- Recon.
- Recon + sight.
- Recon + sight + detects camouflaged units in the ground.
- Recon (all of the above) can be called twice...

Easy to fill the company doctrine in an instant.

I'd much rather have interesting and varied selections to fill the doctrine, rather than just mere improvements on certain abilities.

Yh im with carrot, giving airbourne just recon runs for off maps is gay, whilst axis get at least one dustructive of map.


You expect us to use a strafing run of max 2 to kill enemy infantry? and airbourne squads that are for at only?

No, you still have BAR Rifles, HMGs, Mortar, Sherman, Quad, Flame Engies, Croc, etc.

That's the standard US army

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one of the reasons I don't play COHO. ;)

well,if u dont wanna use them...that is your problem...

Ok, do make AB Rifles regular Riflemen, that can paradrop =)

That's the point. This would undermine the subject of this thread though.

I don't agree with all of you in this thread.
Make AB balanced.
But not difficult on pool/resource management.

COMPROMISE:
How about airborne riflemen is included but they can't buy bars. Greaseguns/thompsons. Make them more of an assault soldier without the suppression ability.

Then they will be very useful but not unstoppable because they can't suppress vet 3 kch instantly like they could with bars.

condor thats genuis. actually is. give air rifles options for Thompsons so they are on PAR with the rangers.

Give them RRs too so that they can counter armor and satchels and handgrenades for other silly things! Thompson RR squads! *sarcasm*

ummm.... you should use them sometime.... you know.

To find out they don't have SF already like rifle BARs for example.

wait till u see new commanders mod version, this is exactly the new unit im adding to AB. I wonder if they need m1 garands or carbines though...

didn't they remove suppressing fire from the ab rifles?

It never had one

so then this never happened?

I'm pretty sure that Condor was mentioning the scenario if AB Rifles were actually just regular Rifles that could paradrop.