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Title: Evaluative Replay
Post by: M1d on January 14, 2011, 07:16:35 pm
Quite a fun game imo, between myslef and Hicks (Armour) Vs Leophone and KingTigerLT (Wher..? :/)

http://www.filefront.com/17794096/2v2 EiRR.rar

I would really appreciate any feedback on my play. (Good or bad.)

Thx, M1d. xD


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: BigDick on January 14, 2011, 08:11:31 pm
i like your company because your running a decent mix of units
thats seen not that often in eir especially as allies
so far good usage but probably you would be doing more successful by running these gimmick starts or exploiting doctrine abilities your teammate

to call pressing a toggle button when a tank is arround "micro" while exploiting a broken doctrine made my day


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Hicks58 on January 14, 2011, 09:24:18 pm
We all know that gimmick companies or tailored multi-companies rule EiRR at the moment.

Evaluate the companies in performance for how they do now or dont bother evaluating them at all tbh.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: LeoPhone on January 14, 2011, 10:33:41 pm
HE rounds is insane. it takes volks down from 5 to 1 in one shot every time, and then if you throw a tank at it the pershing instantly loads the AP rounds. and my t4 is supposed to give volks +1 man. well, to balance this out volks should get 10 man.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Spartan_Marine88 on January 14, 2011, 10:39:08 pm
HE rounds is insane. it takes volks down from 5 to 1 in one shot every time, and then if you throw a tank at it the pershing instantly loads the AP rounds. and my t4 is supposed to give volks +1 man. well, to balance this out volks should get 10 man.

Or stop being an idiot and throwing infantry at one of the allies BEST ai unit


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: lionel23 on January 15, 2011, 12:39:33 am
You know Leo... that +1 man isn't a regular man, it's a guy who has lower health than the rest of the squad, so it's really .5 man to the squad... seriously junk T4 ability.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: LeoPhone on January 15, 2011, 05:19:18 am
You know Leo... that +1 man isn't a regular man, it's a guy who has lower health than the rest of the squad, so it's really .5 man to the squad... seriously junk T4 ability.

they lied to us....

no more eir untill everyone is lvl 1 again.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: EliteGren on January 15, 2011, 06:16:19 am
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AquUClJzK2OBdDhBaTQyM1RvN0xFS2x6UUY3c3BDYXc&hl=en&authkey=CKa42IoJ#gid=0

It's listed in the Final Draft as no regular extra man, and the ability is by no means junk. Having an extra man on your Pak or HMG or flamer pios can be game deciding.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: NightRain on January 15, 2011, 06:17:51 am
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AquUClJzK2OBdDhBaTQyM1RvN0xFS2x6UUY3c3BDYXc&hl=en&authkey=CKa42IoJ#gid=0

It's listed in the Final Draft as no regular extra man, and the ability is by no means junk. Having an extra man on your Pak or HMG or flamer pios can be game deciding.

lol 5 man PAK40s


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Unkn0wn on January 15, 2011, 06:20:13 am
I don't think it applies to PAK40s?


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: smurfORnot on January 15, 2011, 06:28:11 am
compared to old 20% more health for all units,it's a bit crappy,not?


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Unkn0wn on January 15, 2011, 06:30:24 am
It's not the only thing you get.
The flat 20% buff was dull.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: EliteGren on January 15, 2011, 06:41:26 am
Yes 5 man Pak40s


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: sheffer on January 15, 2011, 08:22:30 am
boring game, pershing is the best tank for now (read op).

no more eir untill everyone is lvl 1 again.
really. start with 5 lvls and 200pps is boring too. +1


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Unkn0wn on January 15, 2011, 08:56:17 am
Very little grind and people are complaining, more grind and people are complaining too.
Hmmm


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Hicks58 on January 15, 2011, 10:04:58 am
I've made Leo rage and stop playing EiRR?

Sweet.

Achievement in my EiRR career... Unlocked.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: nugnugx on January 15, 2011, 10:18:25 am
I've made Leo rage and stop playing EiRR?

Sweet.

Achievement in my EiRR career... Unlocked.

pics or didn't happen


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: sheffer on January 15, 2011, 12:54:01 pm
more grind and people are complaining too.

not me


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: LeoPhone on January 15, 2011, 01:25:58 pm
Very little grind and people are complaining, more grind and people are complaining too.
Hmmm

I would play eir with 0 grind and no doctrines every day.


and the personal attacks on these forums must really stop now. its pathetic.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Spartan_Marine88 on January 15, 2011, 02:01:00 pm
I would play eir with 0 grind and no doctrines every day.

That would not be eir then. It would be *shudder* OMG

And the personal attacks have everything to do with your inability to NOT whine about every fucking little thing. And the fact that you have been known to stop mid battle to whine about something and then lose a unit because you were typing and not playing, then start calling the enemies unit OP all over the forums.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Unkn0wn on January 15, 2011, 02:10:26 pm
Let's get past this, shall we?


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: LeoPhone on January 15, 2011, 02:25:00 pm
you think the HE pershing adds fun to the game? a cool unit that only shows what it can do when microd well and a fresh new opponent for the axis while they try to find a way to counter it?

no. Usually the stuff can rape anything without the player having to do anything, and there are no counters for it. another example: the commando sniper. needs no skill at all to use since it spots for itself and you dont have to look after it either thanks to the infantry armor and commando sten (that sten guy would beat a 5 bike assault on its own)


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Mysthalin on January 15, 2011, 02:27:16 pm
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(that sten guy would beat a 5 bike assault on its own)

Wanna bet 100 dollars on that, or shall I not bother with doing stats-crunching to prove you wrong there and you'll just admit to being wrong?


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: RoyalHants on January 15, 2011, 02:37:46 pm
: the commando sniper. needs no skill at all to use since it spots for itself and you dont have to look after it either thanks to the infantry armor and commando sten (that sten guy would beat a 5 bike assault on its own)
OP CHALLENGE try using a sniper like you have no skill go ahead throw it at panthers or ists since you think its so easy evena complete noob could use it and srlsly they dont have sniper armour but still they would get beaten by 3 bikes if the bikes were microed and the sniper had no back up a sten is a junk smg id rather a thompshon anyday


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: LeoPhone on January 15, 2011, 03:20:46 pm
Wanna bet 100 dollars on that, or shall I not bother with doing stats-crunching to prove you wrong there and you'll just admit to being wrong?

at very close range anyway, the DPS of the sten will break those bikes in no time if every shot hits. (which happens, ive seen it)


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: RoyalHants on January 15, 2011, 03:21:46 pm
at very close range anyway, the DPS of the sten will break those bikes in no time if every shot hits. (which happens, ive seen it)
how many atgs and sten mandos were supporting thiis sniper was it inn a building?


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: TheIcelandicManiac on January 15, 2011, 03:24:32 pm
dude if you are having problomes killing commando snipers use a counter sniper as werden and scout car as PE.

i have used this strategy for most of my games that i have fought against royal and so far it has never failed me.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: LeoPhone on January 15, 2011, 03:25:44 pm
it was one sniper vs one bike okay? in the open. surprised i am exaggerating? ffs.

i was testing the mando sniper in commanders mod: when i tried to attack it with a bike the bike died instantly because of the sten. and yes, the sten stats were the same in eir.


dude if you are having problomes killing commando snipers use a counter sniper as werden and scout car as PE.

i have used this strategy for most of my games that i have fought against royal and so far it has never failed me.

why would i want a sniper to counter a sniper? must i also bring a king tiger to counter a king tiger?


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Unkn0wn on January 15, 2011, 03:27:31 pm
Quote
why would i want a sniper to counter a sniper?
uh oh


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: TheIcelandicManiac on January 15, 2011, 03:27:53 pm
the commando sniper allmost never snipes the countersniper for me so that makes the exelent countertool for the commando sniper but if you are having doupts just try it out for yourself.


allso the 17 pounder is the best against kingtiger.

allso a great way is to use slow with the g43 and rush the sniper with assult infantry.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Grundwaffe on January 15, 2011, 03:29:05 pm
chill.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: RoyalHants on January 15, 2011, 04:23:21 pm
the commando sniper allmost never snipes the countersniper for me so that makes the exelent countertool for the commando sniper but if you are having doupts just try it out for yourself.

allso a great way is to use slow with the g43 and rush the sniper with assult infantry.
artillery is the main slayer of my vet 3s i lost bill,james,dave,freddie,jimmy,davidson,carl,frankelbert,and 12 other unamed sniper squads to arty speciallt lethal is the stuka (def and hotchkiss snce it does its damage on hit rather than suppress anyway thats not my only point


ACs and pumas with there roflluckyhits are a decent counter

snipers as mentioned

g43 slow

clowncars full of Assualt grens

TANKS





Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Smokaz on January 15, 2011, 04:31:20 pm
At their current price I dont think commando snipers are overpowered. They come with a unlock that only gives you them and nothing else, plus the munitions price for them right now makes them the most expensive sniper.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: RoyalHants on January 15, 2011, 04:32:21 pm
At their current price I dont think commando snipers are overpowered. They come with a unlock that only gives you them and nothing else, plus the munitions price for them right now makes them the most expensive sniper.
im not saying there overpriced i like there price


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Spartan_Marine88 on January 15, 2011, 05:23:16 pm
Mando snipers are awesome, perfectly priced, and while they can massacre infantry are vulnerable to most vehicles, tanks and up close and personal infantry as you can't cloak.

TBH all snipers are annoying, if used right.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: spinn72 on January 15, 2011, 06:43:46 pm
Mando snipers are awesome, perfectly priced, and while they can massacre infantry are vulnerable to most vehicles, tanks and up close and personal infantry as you can't cloak.

TBH all snipers are annoying, if used right.

I played a game vs Pony and Hants last night, Hants has 3 mando snipers and Pony has 2. The only effective counter to mandos snipers IS an axis sniper, due to the mando snipers lack of cloak. If you target the actual sniper you've done well!

Doing it against 5 snipers is a different story ;).


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Mysthalin on January 15, 2011, 10:39:38 pm
at very close range anyway, the DPS of the sten will break those bikes in no time if every shot hits. (which happens, ive seen it)

So, you still willing to bet 100 dollars?


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: lionel23 on January 15, 2011, 10:53:39 pm
So, you still willing to bet 100 dollars?

I agree, his sten is terrible like a LT. Sten, the unit is going to die first to a bike before the bike dies to it.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Demon767 on January 16, 2011, 12:53:39 am
fyi, bike gets increased damage the less amount of men in a squad, so bike is bad comparison


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: LeoPhone on January 16, 2011, 03:45:36 am
I agree, his sten is terrible like a LT. Sten, the unit is going to die first to a bike before the bike dies to it.

the sten has exact same stats as commando sten, only difference is it has 15 extra range.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: TheIcelandicManiac on January 16, 2011, 05:01:17 am
I played a game vs Pony and Hants last night, Hants has 3 mando snipers and Pony has 2. The only effective counter to mandos snipers IS an axis sniper, due to the mando snipers lack of cloak. If you target the actual sniper you've done well!

Doing it against 5 snipers is a different story ;).


ah you ended in royals sniper spam?

i hate them but from time to time royal fails to micro the and when he dose have them on feild all of his other troops are easy pray due to his obbsesssion to the sniper.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: Mysthalin on January 16, 2011, 05:42:24 am
the sten has exact same stats as commando sten, only difference is it has 15 extra range.

So are you willing to bet 100 dollars. Simple question, give simple answer.


Title: Re: Evaluative Replay
Post by: RoyalHants on January 16, 2011, 06:18:09 am

ah you ended in royals sniper spam?

i hate them but from time to time royal fails to micro the and when he dose have them on feild all of his other troops are easy pray due to his obbsesssion to the sniper.
i get to obsessed with bob and unkown my latest vet 3 snipers poor elite gren died while landing in a glider *tear*