COH: Europe In Ruins

Sharing my most successful company build since starting EIRR, how ever long ago that was. I've had requests so no i'm not here to boast/brag, I know i'm not the best player around, just trying to show others what I do and what works for me!

I've been in love with RCA since I started the mod, and with the new doctrines, RCA have proven themselves to be the most powerful doctrine out of the lot that have been developed thus far due to the blanket buffs that tree's give to ALL units in the British arsenal.

This company only consists of a few core units, these being the ones that benefit most from the doctrine buffs given to them.

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8849/advantages.jpg)

Advantages have gone triple fuel to allow for 5 Cromwells, a Firefly and a Command Tank. This allows you to take more risks with the tanks and have it pay off. All croms have flank speed and repairs, the FF just has repairs and the CCT has ALL upgrades. Smoke is essential. You'll find your CCT sitting behind shot blockers providing you sight for the whole game, and when it gets to vet 3, you'll find the sight radius is so huge you can even leave it behind your lines and it'll still provide sight on the frontline  ;D. I guess this could be considered 'spam', but I just consider it using my resources effectively to how the doctrine buffs affect my troops. Ideally running heavy on tanks and having no LV's leaves a window open for counters, but we'll address these later.

(http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/9545/doctrine.jpg)

Why croms? They receive +25% accuracy. These aren't your vCoH croms! They'll almost ALWAYS hit infantry on every shot. With less reload with vet stacked with CCT you should be doing pretty well with these monsters! I've always thought it was horribly OP, but apparently people beg to differ.

To those that don't understand incremental accuracy, I believe it works like this:
Brens recieve 2% incremental accuracy. There are five men in a volk squad. If a volk squad attacks your brens, the brens will recieve 8% accuracy as there are four other men in the area. If the enemy blobs up 2 volk squads and sends them at you, brens will recieve an additional 18% accuracy against the first man. This stacks with LT and vet bonuses, proving quite handy in clutch situations. Please, someone correct me if i'm wrong!

Frontline officers is important due to the increase in detection, and sight for CCT. Brits struggle against snipers, and because this company doesn't have a bren carrier, you're going to have to rely on marksman shot and Artillery Spotting to get you through this. This is the one weakness i've found for this company -- a sniper will mess it up real bad. Then again, if you're not constantly being aggressive with this company then you've already started failing! Now lit up is probably the best t1 i've ever seen, this is a must have for scaring off enemies, or allowing your brens to be EVEN better with marksman training. Just a few quick things to observe:

• 2 minute recharge on vet 3 marksmen.  ;D  ;D  ;D
• Bren LMG range = a must have. Instant denial. Stack with LT and CCT smoke when necessary and you have 5 pop defending the WHOLE frontline for AI, and an extremely survivable squad at that.

As for the company build, I'll just provide links to avoid the lag. tbh I'm just trying out rifle nades atm, you can substitute that for whatever else is necessary, maybe another capt with foo.

Highlights:

• 5 cromwells and a firefly
• Epic bren squads, and five of them with a CCS and cap for survivability
• 2 minute marksman at vet 3, 3 squads to counter support weapon spam and snipers
• Up to 6 offmaps (4 doctrinal if you choose to purchase [which i don't endorse, such a dick tactic!],  FOO on 12m recharge)
  
  • Some parts are interchangable (Riflenades & piat squads can be changed to units of your choice without affecting company composition
  • Extremely simple to use, only having a few units makes decisions easy in game, allowing you to concentrate on your micro
  
  Lowlights:
  
  • If you struggle with micro, keeping CCT/Capt/LT alive might be a huge issue
  • Good tank micro is helpful, not essential, but if you can't use croms well then you might struggle to use this company effectively
  • This company is to be used extremely aggressively. It is not a sit and wait company, it struggles against WM support spam due to no long range artillery or mortars (though the option for mortar pits is there)
  • This company doesn't benefit too well from anything teammates can provide, this company packs its own counters to mostly everything the enemy could throw at you. If you're looking for synergy with a teammate, this isn't the best idea (unless he has 5 25 pounders or something  ;D)
  
  Starting callin:
  CCT, Cromwell, Bren squad, Sappers w/ Piats, Cap w/ FOO.
  
  Bring on the trolls :(
  
  DOCTRINE 1: http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/699/dc1j.jpg (Starting callin, mg + mortar, piat sappers, 2x riflenades + LT, cromwell)
  DOCTRINE 2: http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/865/dc2k.jpg (FF, 3 croms, 4atg's)
  DOCTRINE 3: http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4571/dc3u.jpg (4 bren squads, one with CCT, 3 marksman)
  DOCTRINE 4: http://img52.imageshack.us/i/dc4l.jpg/ (2 inf squads, 1 sapper w/ minesweeper)

I cbf writing more, it's currently 2am, so I apologize if it's horrible grammatically.
- Enkk

weak company, nothing op about it.
It's not OP/gimmick if people are not raging ingame  or quitting etc.

it works well for you but might not for other players. everyone has their style spinn, until you see like 10 p[layers with this build its not

ALLIES ARE OP !! NURF !!!!!!111

My terror company pisses with righteous indignation upon the face of your haughty RCA pretender company.

Get rid of 1 crommwell and buy a single recon squad and place it in a bren carrier, it an all around scout and it can snipe from the carrier its an great anti sniper with the decloac range.

i believe ive played against you and its awesome to see the cromwells rock this hard, in fact its almost made me go RCA, but I dont play brits too often anyways.

i <3 my brits even if i'm not very good with them. in 4v4's, having bat hq comes well in handy. the +2 pop and -33% team call in timer is really nice. You may be getting beaten but you can call in fresh troopers faster than the other team and you'll always have a man advantage and my beautiful vet 3 25 <3 it just r0x ur s0x

You know all timer reducing abilities never worked right?

Im thinking Brits are "OP" b/c i see them perform well alot of times, lots of spamming units for sure. But axis does that too.
Rather have 2 brit allies instead of US. I seem to win or perform well when i have brits on my team while a full US is usually fail. I have no data to share other from experience the teams i played in.

Now does this mean brits are OP or is the US just full of flaws?

I think the problem lies in rifles, inherently weak, and dont receive any buffs outside of infantry doctrine *unless you count Boys ATs as buff, but that's more of an upgrade imo), rangers and AB are expensive esp poolwise, so the old tactic of using a lot of these strong units isn't seen.

Right now the most powerful US doctrine is Armor, Infantry could really use some buffs to be up to par (get first aid working well and get the few bugs worked out, and a few other kinks and infantry will be a force to be reckoned with), and AB is only effective if you spam AB snipers, which just recently got nerfed/fixed along with the medics, which I find silly, why take the tiny advantages away from those units in a doctrine that is barely in tact.

Compare that to Brits which have RCA which is a great looking doctrine, Commandos which is powerful, and even RE which has about the same amount of things AB does, but is still incredibly well versed atm.

And compare all that to terror which is incomplete, but incredibly powerful as well.

Undying squad that heals itself infinently and a cloak running unit that can snipe infantry. I wonder if they are so ridicilous that people claim...hmm...


On the other hand Infantry doctorine is shit. When I look at the Tier 4s NONE of them buffs infantry at all...TR buffs bazookas and atgs, Lock'n'Load only support weapons and Operation Overlord just armor. I mean wtf? Where is my lovely infantry buffs!

Brits are the best out there right now.

lmao

(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv1/buttersnap/gifs/strofl.gif)

you gotta seriously be kidding me. IF ur going to troll, troll harder.

They really are, best infantry, best buffs, best arty, best support, great tanks, etc.

Brits are amazingly good right now.

glad to see people agree with the US inf doc being weak. Armour is pretty good b/c it makes strong units stronger. Adding 10% to a strong unit means alot, adding 20% to a weak unit that dies easy isnt doing me any favors. Maybe people see brits as OP b/c they are a lot better than US forces, so tactics used that will wipe US forces easy wont hold against Brits?

Brits are OP in the sense of PE being OP. All u need is to spam 1-3 units over and over and thats that.

They should put caps based per unit, not per type. To avoid spamming better.

No. You obviously have not played them recently. RCA is however a lot better than the other two fail doctrines whos only good unit is piatmandos and 17pdr.

He has, but him and the people that were playing with him were all spamming stuff (in the game that i played) and they used it to great effect.

RCA 95mm croms fail hard. Nuff' said.

That is like saying that stuhs fail.

Tetrarchs, 1 can rape a KT

Sten commandoes, guarenteeing your piat safety (especially since they nerfed piat damage to inf)

17 pdr is a piece of shit.

They should nerf it more for it gets really annoying the a volley of them by 2-3 piat commandos kills a whole squad in 1 seckond.

you may fail as using them maybe? i love 'em tbh. Also yes, if a lot of people use the same strategy then you can't say one side is OP, its that strategy, but if there are many different strategies that are effective, then that side is OP, and if you consider that, PE is the most balanced/OP side right now followed by wm, then brits then us.

what is so OP with wehr and PE?

Wehr = Terror with marksman everything that have shreks as well. The ultimate AT with AI in pervitin blobs.

Instant rocket arty offmap.

PE = moving IST lockdown

hmm,markshmen+shrek+medikit=175mun nuff said...that shit is more expensive than KHC...

If I saw that as OP,I would probably be the first one to use it,but I dont,since I find it way 2 expensive for what it does...

yeah and preform better too

just explain to me,how can they perform better against inf than khc?

he said perform better generally not just against inf. It's kinda like the old volks faust spam, you had an infantry unit that could do well against everything for cheap.

really need to lock out marksman if u purchase another upgrade, no other infantry unit gets two types of guns like that.

The 95mm is so beast! Best anti infantry tank in-game by far

omg, are you seriously? put grens in cover, pop pills, then pop medkit, rape infantry, if some kind of scary squad gets close, use marksman, vehicle gets close you have consistent at.

kch or oak leaves, sure you will rape infantry with medkit and pills, but any armor comes out all you got is a faust.

Rangers

Piat-commandos

How could you overlook that!? Its in Allies!
oh wait yur trying to nerf Axis  :D

quit trollin, totally different. Zooks suck vs tanks and piat commandos only have piats with lee enfields oops.

Thompsons Plus Zooks - L2flankrear

Piat + Stens

Thompsons plus zooks is in thier full package deal, and not only is it crazy expensive. It can't pen shit, and every time you lose a man you lose a good deal of either ai or at.

Piats + stens do not exist, it was removed and cannot be done

We are not talking about the effectiveness, we are talking about it existing.

Guys really need to l2read, bringing up irrelevant facts.

You can't really deny the fact that Brits are still more powerful than all the other doctrines, the proof is everywhere. Their selection of units are all extremely powerful and cover all bases, except for snipers.

95mm's are beast with dual t3's on RCA, 25% AoE and 25% Acc.. mmmm. I'm going to drop airburst soon and start using them.

To the few players who posted 'this is bad I wouldn't struggle', please feel free to post your own company builds, it's really intriguing to know how other players build their companies, what they group up in callins etc. This only took 10 mins and I might do it again with my AB coy somewhere down the track, it feels good to give something back to the community instead of posting stupid troll comments on other peoples' threads :P.

This is true, but only in extreme circumstances, eg. instant FOO recharge, hotch 65 range. Having 5 croms that instantly hit on every hit does the same kind of job, but it's actually able to be countered. I find that after 3 croms die, people start getting frustrated because they've exhausted most AT options and can't believe how many more you have. If you really want to frustrate, get 6 croms, spend the rest of the fuel on bren MMG's and get dual t3's with 25% acc and 20% pen. Croms that can counter everything = win. Also, people don't whine over companies like this because there isn't anything to whine about. It's a selection of average units that work well together, it's not 12 hotch stukas, it's not 50 rifle squads and 10 atg's. It's a mix.

i think the real problem lies in the spams. In all factions.

Maybe only allow certain amount of units per army, instead of let say 60 inf points. That really wont stop a spam.

I think PE is OP as well.
Why?
Spam 1-3 units and they have superior anti inf and anit tank units. And ive seen spammed piats cause mass confusion and chaos. I guess it all falls under how big of ass the player is.

omg cant believe people are still complaining about spam

Thats BS man...I understand that spam can be frustrating but if you start limiting the number of units, you take out the variety and the strategy. All you will have left is a "who has better micro" show...

Give him a fucking medal, finally another man is enlightened to the fact.

and we all know demon has terrible micro so of course he wants spam to stay ;/D

you mean who has the most strategy on the battlefield? I know how lame will that be in a RTS.

if max amount of rangers is 5. U may use 5, but i would only use 2. So no it wont work that way.

Because you can't adjust to a different army?

If you have trouble with spam, make sure to build your company properly.

;/D

All I can say is Schwerpunkt. You find the weakest spot in the enemy's defences and you throw all you have at him. Aka spam.

We all know where to spam against women ;D

ok,so what you are saying is that 3 gren rifles when poped pill, will rape elite allied infantry? Yea,why do I have hard time believing that  ::)

Because not all people are able to understand why making your gren squad able to kill a man a volley at long range(become essentially a sniper) would allow 3 such squads to rape elite infantry.

still,it's a bit hard to believe that they will rape 3 mando or ranger squads untill I see it...