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Title: Panthers are back!
Post by: RikiRude on June 03, 2011, 11:36:08 am
I'm seeing a lot of panthers lately, about 2/3 wm is running them (myself included!) and a few pe are running them as well.

As an allied player this is making me reconsider which type of armor I bring on field. I find that towards the end of the game I always see a panther make its way onto the field.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: nugnugx on June 03, 2011, 11:38:45 am
panther?  just roll with kt/tiger/jag  8)


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: TheIcelandicManiac on June 03, 2011, 11:40:43 am
Panthers with APCR are quite good TBFH for they can Beat Pershings and aint afrade of anything


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Tymathee on June 03, 2011, 11:41:10 am
Panther <3 I have 4 of 'em


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: nugnugx on June 03, 2011, 11:42:22 am
Panthers with APCR are quite good TBFH for they can Beat Pershings and aint afrade of anything

two words


atgs and fireflies


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Tachibana on June 03, 2011, 11:46:57 am
I always asumed APCR hetzers + jagd combo > Panthers.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: RoyalHants on June 03, 2011, 11:47:10 am
thats three words nugnugx


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Unkn0wn on June 03, 2011, 11:55:20 am
Panther <3 I have 4 of 'em

You have 1800 fuel?


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Tachibana on June 03, 2011, 12:12:35 pm
Another sig for bigdick?


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: EliteGren on June 03, 2011, 12:22:12 pm
That's quite alot of fuel. Someone should check tyms accounts


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: smurfORnot on June 03, 2011, 12:26:00 pm
Tym hacks?!  ;D
hmm,explains all that vet Tym has,lol


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: DarkSoldierX on June 03, 2011, 12:26:12 pm
two words


atgs and fireflies
sig'd


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: PonySlaystation on June 03, 2011, 12:32:10 pm
That's quite alot of fuel. Someone should check tyms accounts

He didn't say they were all on the same account.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: EliteGren on June 03, 2011, 12:41:08 pm
Who does that? No one says hey I have 8 fireflies or 50 rifles


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: smurfORnot on June 03, 2011, 12:44:12 pm
I have 20 marders  ::)


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: RoyalHants on June 03, 2011, 12:48:35 pm
i have 6 cromwells  ::)


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: MittinsKittens on June 03, 2011, 12:51:47 pm
I'm seeing a lot of panthers lately, about 2/3 wm is running them (myself included!) and a few pe are running them as well.
I've ALWAYS ran Panthers. I feel like I'm exposing myself if I don't have one in my Coy, specially when Croc Churchills and more importantly, Pershings come on the map :P


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: RikiRude on June 03, 2011, 01:30:56 pm
mine are for all the light vehicles personally.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: NightRain on June 03, 2011, 01:46:22 pm
mine are for all the light vehicles personally.

You...use panthers as light vehicle hunters...? rofl

APCR + Vet 3 Panther = 2 shots M10s ;D


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Tymathee on June 03, 2011, 02:42:33 pm
it's called exaggeration perhaps? tbh i have no panthers in my coys. although i'm thinking of going back to panthers in my blitz, i did quite well with them. the extra sight, accuracy, damage, turret spin and penetration makes them rape machines. I kept one on for almost half a match one time.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: EliteGren on June 03, 2011, 06:04:51 pm
You exaggerated from 0 to 4? ...that's quite an exaggeration tbfh


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: AmPM on June 03, 2011, 06:08:34 pm
it's called exaggeration perhaps? tbh i have no panthers in my coys. although i'm thinking of going back to panthers in my blitz, i did quite well with them. the extra sight, accuracy, damage, turret spin and penetration makes them rape machines. I kept one on for almost half a match one time.

So...less than I normally keep a Tiger on? And it costs more Munis?


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: RikiRude on June 03, 2011, 06:43:10 pm
when the us player is sending out T17s and m8s that easily circle my paks, which don't do enough damage, or tear up my grens, then I might as well bring on a panther rather than a P4 or upgun puma. my axis companies cant afford many paks because of the way they are set up.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Unkn0wn on June 03, 2011, 06:45:36 pm
I suppose, like mysthalin predicted, it's a shift in the metagame.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: AmPM on June 03, 2011, 07:40:07 pm
when the us player is sending out T17s and m8s that easily circle my paks, which don't do enough damage, or tear up my grens, then I might as well bring on a panther rather than a P4 or upgun puma. my axis companies cant afford many paks because of the way they are set up.

Use 2 PAKs, one behind the other, cheaper and more efficient.

Or an OSTWIND.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: spinn72 on June 03, 2011, 08:05:37 pm
i have 6 cromwells  ::)
shh.. that stays between you and me,,


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Vermillion_Hawk on June 03, 2011, 08:08:55 pm
Use 2 PAKs, one behind the other, cheaper and more efficient.

Or an OSTWIND.

T17's can easily kill an Ostwind, they dodge the bullets much too easily and just circle strafe it like anything else.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: panzerman on June 03, 2011, 08:12:11 pm
shh.. that stays between you and me,,

ROFL thats a bad habit u have!

oh and i run triple panther APCR works well.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Tymathee on June 03, 2011, 08:58:26 pm
T17's can easily kill an Ostwind, they dodge the bullets much too easily and just circle strafe it like anything else.

uhh...no they can't, t-17s can't penetrate ostwinds from front or back

are you talking about staghounds?


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Vermillion_Hawk on June 03, 2011, 09:16:32 pm
Aren't T17's and Staghounds the same? Well, my experience where I had an Ostwind killed did feature Staghounds, yes.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Katusha on June 03, 2011, 09:20:30 pm
1v1 Ostwind would win against both T17 and Staghound

I think Staghound has more health than T17 though, so it would take longer for the Ostwind to kill it.

Also there's no way anything can circlestrafe an Ostwind.

On topic: From my experience, a panther's effectiveness depends entirely on how many enemy ATG's are on the field. Anything else it can handle, in Pershing's case it can at least kite.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Rocksitter on June 04, 2011, 12:18:58 am
 Just run when you see enemy infantry   .....


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: nugnugx on June 04, 2011, 02:59:02 am
I suppose, like mysthalin predicted, it's a shift in the metagame.

People use what is currently most OP lol.  That's why when all doctrines will be in and everything will be balanced real play can start because people won't take what is OP but what they like to play with.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: CollectiveSTLS on June 04, 2011, 03:49:58 am
Think t17's or m8's with HVAP could pentrate and prob kill an ostwind if there's enough of em.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Tymathee on June 04, 2011, 04:34:58 am
there's a lot of panthers because they're better at handling the light vehicle spam than tigers, paks and schrecks are.

tbh you wanna tackle lv spam with a wehr coy, go ostwinds they tear 'em up pretty good.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: nugnugx on June 04, 2011, 05:03:06 am
there's a lot of panthers because they're better at handling the light vehicle spam than tigers, paks and schrecks are.

tbh you wanna tackle lv spam with a wehr coy, go ostwinds they tear 'em up pretty good.

just get an upgun puma , no need for panther vs lv


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: NightRain on June 04, 2011, 09:43:22 am
just get an upgun puma , no need for panther vs lv

Allied LVs >>>>>> Puma


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: EliteGren on June 04, 2011, 09:49:29 am
In effectiveness vs inf maybe, but the upgun puma totally rapes a T17 in the face


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: RikiRude on June 04, 2011, 10:36:02 am
Yes ostwinds do work wonders against LVs, but I just feel safer with the panther, then I can take on LVs and any other armor the players will be tossing at me.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: NightRain on June 04, 2011, 12:06:46 pm
In effectiveness vs inf maybe, but the upgun puma totally rapes a T17 in the face

I'd want to see a replay where T17 takes on a puma 1v1


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Groundfire on June 04, 2011, 12:45:30 pm
I'd want to see a replay where T17 takes on a puma 1v1

Kay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb0M2MPtmA



Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: RoyalHants on June 04, 2011, 01:08:15 pm
Kay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb0M2MPtmA


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Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: RikiRude on June 04, 2011, 02:35:34 pm
rofl


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: PonySlaystation on June 04, 2011, 04:16:21 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWO4irkUAk8

This is a good example of how you should NOT use your AT guns.


Title: Re: Panthers are back!
Post by: Rahx on June 04, 2011, 04:29:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWO4irkUAk8

This is a good example of how you should NOT use your AT guns.

Lol, I wonder how the Axis player is called: PonySlaystation I suppose, teaching us how we should NOT use our AT guns.

Thank you for this lesson Pony!  :-*