COH: Europe In Ruins

This seemed relatively well received, so here goes.

DATE: 06/08/2011 at 22:00 GMT

Omaha Beach

3v3

Omaha Beach Map: http://www.gamefront.com/files/20636724/8p_omaha+beach.sga (DOWNLOAD AND PLACE IN YOUR ARCHIVES FOLDER, RENAME TO "betamap".

Players:

Axis:
Panda - Defensive
punkmaster - Defensive
smurfORnot - Terror

Vs

Allies:
WildZontar - Infantry
Scotzmen - Infantry
EricTheCommando - Armour

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Okily dokily so, me thinks the best bet would be 2 Defensive players and a Terror player, vs 2 Infantry players and aaaaaaaaaaaa..... Armour player? Not sure yet.

Rules

As far as rules go, they won't be too strict, it's just to make it more fun and immersive.
See the picture below for rules reference.

Retreating is not allowed!

Axis must not advance past the front line, no matter what! Axis fighting actually on the beach will be stupid and is a no go.
Allies cannot just sit in their spawn and arty the Axis to oblivion! If you attempt this, I will make sure the Axis are able to crush you :)

You will notice on the image that there are 3 red lines. These are the Front Line, Fallback Line, and the Retreat Line. More on these will follow.

If there are any Pantherturms or Mortar Bunkers on the map, and I don't think there are, but if there are, you can use them. Actually this doesn't matter as they will start destroyed and nothing can repair so nevermind.

Allied Specific Rules
Each Allied player may bring on one tank to break through the first line. If they do not succeed at breaking through and their tank is destroyed, you may bring on another, but only when your first tank is destroyed.
For the Armour player, this must be a Sherman.

Each Allied Infantry player may bring on 2 tanks to break through the second line. If your original tank survives the first line, then you may only bring on one more.
The Allied Armour player may only bring on his 2nd Sherman.

For the third line, Allied Infantry players may bring up their remaining tanks whenever they wish. For the Armour player, this will be when he may bring out the Pershing.

Axis Specific Rules
For the First line, there may only be one Medic Bunker in place at any one time.
For the Second line, there will also only be one Medic Bunker in place.
For the Third line, 2 Medic Bunkers are allowed.
1 Geschutz is allowed for the First line, 1 Geschutz for the Second, and 2 for the Third.

Axis may place as many normal & MG Bunkers across the lines as they wish.

If Axis get pushed back to the second line, they may bring out Stuka's, but only if they get pushed back to the second line.

If Axis get pushed back to the third line, then and only then are they allowed to bring the KT onto the field.

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Lines

Now, the three main lines do in fact serve purposes.

The Front line denotes where combat engagements will first begin, and Axis must note that they cannot advance past this line!

The Middle/Fallback line is where Axis should fall back to should they lose the Front line. I do not mean if they only lose the Front line on one flank that the entire line must fall back, just that particular flank. You can even adopt a staggered defensive line if this is the case.

The Retreat line is the most important. If all three flanks (Left, Right, Middle) get pushed back to this line and remain there for an as yet unspecified amount of time, Axis will lose. You will most likely lose due to capping anyway, but regardless, you will lose.

Suggested routes for Allied advances are shown in green, a combined push would work best, try and make it look nice as well if you can :)

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9372/omahabeachx.jpg)


More details in next post.

Righty-ho, so, that part you all hate, Unit Restrictions! ;D

These are going to be quite vague because one, I don't feel like going into huge detail, and two, it's not really fair for you guys to not have control over your own company.

Defensive

You can use all your infantry, including Officers.
You may not use ANY fuel units other than Bikes, 88's, Stukas, Flammenwerfers, Nebelwerfers and Halftracks.
You may use 1 Sniper.
You may use 3 Bikes.
You must have 1 88, of which you must start with.
You may use 1 Stuka.
You can have as many Halftracks as you wish.
You may have as many MG42's & Mortars as you wish.
You may use 2 Paks.
You may use 1 Nebelwerfer.
You may use 3 Flammenwerfers.
You may buy 2 Medic Bunkers.

Terror

You may use all your infantry, including Oak Leaves KCH, except Snipers.
You may not use ANY fuel units other than Bikes, Flammenwerfers, Ambulances, Geschutzwagons, King Tiger and Halftracks.
You may use 3 Bikes.
You may use 2 Ambulances.
You may use 4 Geschutzwagons.
You can have as many Halftracks as you wish.
You may have as many MG42's & Mortars as you wish.
You may use 2 Paks.
You may use 2 Nebelwerfers.
You may use 2 Flammenwerfers.

Infantry

You may use all your infantry, including Rangers and Command Squads.
You may not use ANY fuel units other than Jeeps, Jumbos, Crocs, Howitzers and Halftracks.
You may use 1 Sniper.
You may use 3 Jeeps.
You may use 2 Jumbos.
You may use 2 Crocs.
You can have as many Halftracks as you wish.
You may use 1 Howitzer.
You may have as many MG's & Mortars as you wish.
You may use 1 57mm.
You may buy 1 Triage.

Armour

You may use all your infantry, including Assault Engineers, except Snipers.
You may not use ANY fuel units other than Jeeps, Shermans, Pershings, T17's and Halftracks.
You may use 3 Jeeps.
You may use 2 Shermans.
You may use 1 Pershing.
You can have as many Halftracks as you like.
You may NOT use a Calliope!
You may use 2 T17's.
You may have as many MG's & Mortars as you wish.
You may use 2 57mm's.

Offmaps

Offmaps are only allowed to be used after 5 minutes of actual game time, after Allies have deployed, so 9 minutes into the game overall!

Can't think of anything else right now, other than if you wish to participate, sign up in this thread.

I'll post the date in a moment.

Could I have an Allied spot pretty please? Inf company.

I'm in infy allies

If nobody else wants to play Terror I will gladly. It depends on the time though, so just put me down for prospective.

Date is up top.

In addition, I'm gonna make this really nice, there will be objectives for each team.

I will do these objectives on a neat little slideshow that I'll send to each team prior to the game.

THERE WILL BE MOVING PICTURES AND EVERYTHING OMGWTFBBQ!?!?!

Also any comments and suggestions etc. are welcome, I've probably missed some stuff so yeah :)

I may just be able to make it, so put me down for Terror. If something comes up though I'll inform you.

4 ATGs total for the team in fighting a KT? With 88s about?

Really?

Bring on the RRs and demo mandos! Blood will buy entrance!

Hey, it's some tasty, tasty vet for my KT. Keep in mind that if the Allies overrun our positions, they get the 88's as well.

I never said it would be eeeeeaaaaaaasy.

There will be restrictions on when certain units can be brought out anyway.

Im up for playing infantry in this.

You could make it so axis can only bring on the KT if they are pushed back to middle or third line (your choice which)

Kinda simulates a KT being sent to an area that needs support or will fall

I'm a bit concerned for the no limit on Mg42s/Mortars the Axis can have.

Also, 22 GMT on Monday on my side of the planet turns out to be around 6:00pm on Sunday on Pacific, atleast I think it is.. Good thing you put it on monday instead of tuesday!

i'm down for any team\faction just dont make my comapny fail like in FS or well be making oure own company?

also i think you should exclude the 88 barrage ability i think it will be devastating with 88 spam just need mgs...

and maby cant call armor on till first line is down?

Way ahead of you guys :)

Btw Zontar I think you're reading the date wrong, you're reading it American style, it's actually on Saturday.

what happend with another thread ( link) i said i would like to play as defensive doc if still got spot for me  :D :D :D

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=20515.msg360530;topicseen#new (http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=20515.msg360530;topicseen#new)

Ah okay, I get confused with those kinda dates I suppose, I'll figure em out sooner or later.

up for axis!

Just swap the month and date around :)

You cool for Saturday? Date is up for change if multiple people can't play on that date .

I'm up for Saturday, but not for Monday/Friday/Wednesday.

damn maybe i cannot but i hope u can find other players coz i have night shift and it will be 23:00 hour here when GMT is 22:00 hour can it be bit earlier like Gmt 20:00 hour ,then i can suerly play but if not then maybe another time then  :(     or if u do it on upcoming tuesday then i am free and the upcoming weekend as well

that means we wont see gork with 5x 88  :o

No coz GMT 22:00 uur i will be start with working at the time and i will be on night shift from friday till monday so no gaming for 4 days for me

22 GMT? NZ is 11 hours ahead, 9 AM sunday morning? I could make that.

I have no idea what time it would be on Saturday  ::)

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Use that shit.

Use "Event Time Announcer" to input the time on which the event runs,

Use london, england as the city name/location

Set the date, dont worry about how long it runs for, then show result. Easy.

I'm not making the time any earlier because it's unfair on US & Aussie-area people.

Can go later though.

can the scenario be no tuesday then i could suerly make it at the Gmt 22:00 hour or nesxt weekend coz i start with my work at GMT 22:00 till
GMT 07:00 am in the morning so ,i cannot this week if u get other player which u suerly will then go ahead with it this weekend .

No Gork, sorry.

Updated first post with some more specific rules.

Ok np man maybe other time then  :(

Rules regarding offmaps have been updated.

Would it be okay if you guys moved it forward an hour or so?

Id like to play defensive doc if there`s a  spot available  ;)

i would be wiling to be in this but i dont have a single one of those comps at level 9 so.

I'd totally be down for infantry, but no retreating? What am I supposed to do with my vet unitz?

We going to get fresh lvl 9 companies for this or????

If it comes down to it, we can make up custom companies with customised vet to simulate more realism I guess, up to Schmitt really and whether he completes his homework on time (RGDs lol)

So do I need to bring my vet3 KT into this :p

Put them in the holding zone if you don't want to lose them.

And I've done all my homework sir!

I just changed that......  ;)

WHY? :-[

I don't have 300 PP to burn for the oversupply....are held units supposed to still draw from the pool?

Yeah by the way something came up and I can't play Saturday, sorry! The Axis team will most likely be improved with my absence anyways.

Get pp then?

Don't play if you're too scared to lose your vet

So far it looks like

Allies

WildZontar - Infantry
Scotzmen - Infantry
Needz armour playorz

Axis

smurfORnot - Terror
punkmaster - Defensive
Spamda - Defensive

Anyone else?

Need an Armour player.

armour here

i'm guessing Spamda is me

I'll talk to EiRRMod about getting Atk/Def modes fixed properly for this so the Defenders don't get a huge population edge.

Spamda is indeed you ;)

And thanks brn

2 Inf players and a RE player with a Churchill Croc instead of an Armour player and a Pershing would be more epic.

I guess I could work some magic and give the Armour player the Churchill Croc and that keeps your American vs WM feel...

let me know if you need a hand with anything Schmidt.

Oh man, Brn does know how to get me hot and sweaty..

If you could, it would be very much appreciated :)

Nebelwerfer is a fuel unit

Pffffffffff, my bad.

can i have more than 1 88?

Noes

There's actually one on the map already methinks

.... nooo

pandas 88 spam,lol

Yes there is.

Also uploaded the map we will be using, it's edited slightly, just place in your archives folder, and rename to betamap.

*will repuload after some changes have been made*

... I need to make 180pp in 2 days i dont think i can spam that many games

lulz, can i retreat reward units?

You all suck.

Panda I'll see about you, and ughhhh if you HAVEEE to....

lol, i promise they shall be the only ones i shall retreat :D

Plus my account may need some tinkering as its not quite level 9 yet 0_o

Panda's going to spam the beach with bunkers

I actually just played a mock game and if axis get too close to the frontline they get bombed -_-

since axis cant attack after first line,is scouting with bike/schwim considered attacking or scouting?

Scouting, but good luck getting there :)

Also I think we'll have to do Engagement and force the allies to wait, because otherwise axis just get blown up if they even get close to the front line.

Okay here is teh mapz

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20636724/8p_omaha+beach.sga

ok well i don't know when this game is so can i get a link so i can type the date and find out what the time and date are

Use the one here

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=20519.msg360586#msg360586

It's in the autoupdater, lol

Yeah this one is different

Will keep bumping this, but is everyone okay for it still?

What's diff about it?

More cover on the beach leading up to the trenches and bunkers, and 2 extra slots

Also guys there has been a slight amendment to the rules, due to how attack/defend works, in that axis get blown up if they try to get to the front line, in combination with it not yet being fixed, we're going to do a normal Meeting Engagement, but Allies must wait 4 minutes before even moving out of their spawns.

I will be watching so no cheating :)

If you need a filler Spot I might be around when you need me, try PM'ing me in Vent if you need me for either the game or for more launcher vodoo

Is it 3 or 4 hours to go? I forget :)

Also I need a level 9 Defensive player who will fill a special role, unless Brn is available.

4 hours to go

are all players still in?!

 as far as i know yes and 2 hours till game time, ProDevGuy need to talk to ya

do i get a pershing and croc?

Why does CoHcommando get 500pp and I don't? :3

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

it's 7.11 GMT now,so almost 3 hours,not 2

pretty sure its in 1 hr 45 min, schmidt can confirm

katusha is right and why can't my crocs get dual repairs :(

if it is 19.16 by GMT right now,how can it be then 1.45h if it starts at 22.00?

Someones working it out wring, you guys decide, looks like I might need a replacement for punkmaster anyway as I haven't heard from him since he signed up, ask people if they can replace him please.

not sure but something with daylight savings

i was talking with schmidt a few days ago, and we compared times, and it is indeed in 1 hr 30 minutes now

Again, whenever is best for you guys. Can even be inbetween if neccessary.

Still need a high level Defensive player for a special spot!

Is it still going ahead or?

Oh yes, but if I don't get that player I'll have to alter it slightly.

?

dose it have to be lvl9? i has a lvl 5 named YouShallNotPass

Well then you're not gonna have half the stuff you're supposed to have are you....

Did someone bail on the axis side then?

Nah, it's an extra thing for obectives.

So we need a forth axis player?

Basically yeah

Guess that signs me up. Ideally I'd prefer if someone else did it but it's so hard to trust people out there.

brn makes me lvl 9

I'll like to do it, I just dont have the company for it :(

Well it's not a playing position form what I understand. You'd simply call in a single unit so you don't get killed and then call in an Offmap at certain times/objectives. Correct me if I'm wrong Schmidt?

Correct

Why are you fail axis not here?

Do you like replacements

Some friendly advice for the next time:

1) play a particular map
2) cough up PPs for the vet that has to wait/oversupply through the moderators or through brn which is a helpful guy when it comes to stuff like this
3) dont limit AT completely for one side; for instance defensive in this scenario without a 88 has only 2 paks and mass shreks, they cant get any panthers or even upgun pumas, nor stugs or p4s.

There is a particular map, don't you have it?

Ive got it but when you replied in chat you said there wasnt a particular map

Another list:

- NO goliaths obviously on defense scenarios for axis
- 88s should not be part of the 1st defense line
- Company's need to be masturbatorily hardcore checked
- Or made manually instead of the above
- Attackers should always have better unit selection than defenders
- AT/AI limitations must be very well thought out
- no offmaps

And of course teams have to better than they were, a lot of shit will feel like its out of your control, gj trying anyways schmidt.

One day in the future we might actually have OK ways of making scenarios

This one went much better http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=18726.0

Post replay

Nah, pointless

Just do it.

tbf there wasn't supposed to be goliaths, they use fuel and I said no fuel units other than what was stated but oh well

goliaths cost munitions

and fuel