COH: Europe In Ruins

One of the best tier 4's ever to happen to the allies...It needs to come back allies are too nerfed atm. Discuss.

L2P

TOP t4 with officers unlocked seems just as good, only dif you have to buy bars

oke, if I can have tenacious faith back.

yes, gief carbines.

Theres no reason to take it out, compare terror tier 4's with every tier 4 out there.....It's just really stupid that things like pervatin pills exist but carbines are OP...yeah l2p my ass >.>

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lol, just trolling you.

PP are OP too

Well regardless it just seems to me that the balance team(If it does exist) isn't doing it's job right. Airborne has been nerfed to the point to where I don't go "Oh shit airborne" anymore it's more like "lol k airborne" (Aside from the assault ability they had that was k, i don't mind that being nerfed) It's been a long down hill nerf barrage for the allies over the past few months... QQ.

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Garands should be default and Carbines should be an upgrade, that would be logical. They would have to be better ofc too.

i thought carbines were the weakest weapons and what riflemen have.
so what do they have?
and would garands on AB a good t4... if it worked?

Carbines was one of the strongest tier 4's allies had....It basically gave roughtly a 50% damage increase on rifles.

I thought AB came with carbines?  And there is a t4 that gives them garands...soooooo what do ab have?

What unit uses a carbine then...?

first off i think it should be noted that NO doctrine should be compared with terror right now. the devs said terror had a lot of work done to it, and it's one of the best doctrines, and they would like to see other doctrines follow in its suit. so it doesnt make any sense to say "this doctrine sucks it should be as cohesive as terror!" because duh, the devs already agree with you.

anyways, i never had a chance to really try carbines or rifle training or whatever it was, but it looked fun.

also top T4 with officers is great. put your rifles in green cover and you have triple bars with like +35% accuracy, and i believe if you fire on volks all the added suppression bonuses can suppress them with out using SF. I'm just not sure how many rifles with BARs you need for it to happen.

Yes you're argument is true, but it's not just infantry... EIRR took a shit on top of all allied doctrines, personally half the fun of EIRR was all the different styles of companies I would see, It was always interesting to fight against crazy companies...whether it be smoke and flame allies or l337 officers of d00m...It's just really wierd how terror is always the best doctrine and usually it's alright if Airborne is good too...

And carbines was a really really fun tier 4 ;_: RIP Carbines.

well if they are happy with how terror is, then hopefully it wont take long till allies catch up with it

Soon™

Keep in mind that doctrines were reworked for a reason. Many of them were ridiculously OP and created a massive gap between new accounts and Level 9 accounts.

I think we may have gone too far the other way, but going back to the way it was is not an option either.

Keep in mind Computer: Many of the gimmick companies you used helped motivate the team to make changes   ;)

 

lol!!

Problem was it was too spammable, a tweaked version could work.

anything that computer spams must be OP :P.

but carbines was fun. I want cohesion back as well

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implement old doctrines for a week and see how much fun everyone has

OMG DO IT...take out the british and pe for that matter.

fixed

I'd have far more fun with T4 Artillery or TR

why allies had pro armour stuff ab stuff and infantry stuff

LOL give US BACK OLD TR, watch as everyone cries.

well the way i remember, when we had the ongoing war axis always won and handidly. Allies won once and axis cried OP lmao and they allies barely won.

defensive was crap, no one used 'em. terror was OP and blitz was annoying.

People greatly over generalize "allies" the american doctrines are a joke but only when compared to terror, terror is not OP, its just the image of a perfect doctrine where every choice is viable.

But imo, the british are still very powerfull, its the americans that need a little help, The brits are perfect where they are. Maybe mandos need a little love, but otherwise, RCA and RE are fine.

+1

brits are fine. mandos need soem fine tuning. rca is the most well rounded brit doctrine, DONT TOUCH IT DEVS. it aitn broken, dont fix it.

hmm..engineers, i dunno. i dont use 'em, never have.

americans really need some love though. i think what the americans need is more buffs for what they're supposed to be used for.

I think balancing would be so much easier if each doc was themed rather than given offensive, defensive and support buffs.

but we'll see what they come up with later, i think they got soem fun stuff coming

+1 for the most part. I think heavy support needs a looking at, and we still need to see the KT with its proper buffs before we can make what's what with the bottom T4. But other than that I think Terror is one of the most put together doctrines. I think US for the most part is fine, it's just fine tuning, especially when you compare to something like lock and loaded.