COH: Europe In Ruins

300 manpower 300 munition (+ other upgrades if one wants them) 5 pop on field. Big munition dump high risk reward but is ultimately powerful in the reward department.

So I purpose this change:

Allow Stormtroopers only buy 1 Schreck only. Maybe allow 2nd through doctrine, but vanilla Stormtroopers 1 Schreck upgrade only. It reduces the double Storms alpha striking a unit but still allows Stormtroopers to ambush vehicles.

why would I want them for only 1 shreck?
having 10 pop,to get 2 shrecks,which aint gonna be amazing,cant kill tank,cant kill atg,dont wanna rly engage infantry,just dont see the point of it. How much time do you see people buying only 1 shreck on them? Rarely.

You still get one or two advantages over Grenadier Schrecks.

1. Better health
2. Cloak

With these two buffs, you can engage tank by going in closer than with a Grenadier Schreck and take in the ambushing shot. It also fixes one thing. Alpha strike which is powerful as heck. Actually it is breaking the balance for being more powerful than anything else. 240 + 240 damage from one volley.

Just because 1 weapon slot is taken it doesn't mean it can't fight infantry. It has 3 of the second best rifle's in game. Kar98s. You can still defeat a rifle squad from cover with them, plus with higher health and access to medkits you can still perform two roles with one role (AT) higher and other one (AI) slightly lower.

those shreks misses everyting for long range and sometimes even misses in short range so i don't think its a good idea ,to kill atguns u need 3 shrek shots and u need to mighty close so it will be a big risk with 1 shrek where 2 shreks not doing the damn job 100%.

well,try them with only 1 shreck, tell us how it goes replacing your grens with storms.

Or just add more Infantry Awareness to things like Jeeps/Bikes etc.

tankedit: Cant bully my employees on eastern.

DOnt schreks have massive good medium and long range accuracy?. i mean to take out a atg and bring up a tiger to defend your stormies from a hmg or what not is still powerfull. and the ability to cloak all units but the 1 currently being shot at is kinda iffy.

LOL

LOL. if i am correct they are better at medium and long then zooks and worse then zooks at short.

Shreks are far better than zooks at all ranges.

They are more expensive and their platform doesn't have fire-up to save them when shit gets real.

Also, "better at medium and long than zooks" doesn't equate to "massive good medium and long range accuracy".

I wholly agree with the idea. Stormtroopers are incredibly useful and powerful and hopefully this will help curb their widespread usage, while also at the same time ensuring that Blitzkreig players have to specialize their doctrine selection to keep the same level of tank destruction.

incredibly useful and powerful,yes,also,all you need is one lucky shot of arty to loose 300-600mun  ::)

Shreck has following accuracy:

1 - Short
0.75 - Medium
0.35 - Long

Bazooka has the following:

1 - Short
0.65 - Medium
0.35 - Long

Target tables are pretty up in arms but in general, the Bazooka is more accurate against unskirted targets while Shrecks have the advantage - over Bazookas firing at skirted targets.

and which allied tanks are skirted?

None are.

Updated the punctuation so it confuses you less.

so basically,they have almost same accuracy.

No.

Ugh, christ Smurf.

Bazooka vs unskirted targets > Shreck vs all targets

Shreck vs all targets > Bazooka vs skirted targets

Also, Shrecks are better with medium range.

Make sense yet?

Shrecks' higher dmg and penetration =

Shreck > bazooka vs everything.

yes, its called your an idiot if you don't skirt

aha,so this is why you can get 2-3 bazookas for one shrek.  ::) ::) ::)

You guys have noticed through your hundreds of EiR games that shrek has far superior spread then bazooka right. Doesn't hit targets frequently at long range, but much more than zooks do.

And is priced accordingly.

Bump. Still relevant. Like mysthalin had  said: Look at the source of the problem.