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Title: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: EliteGren on June 02, 2013, 02:44:24 pm
They are a worthless unit it seems. Has anyone found a decent use for them? I'm not entirely sure why I'd choose this over an upgraded scoutcar


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: skaffa on June 02, 2013, 02:47:35 pm
worthless unit it seems

Sold a few for 99 cent on market heya


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: TheIcelandicManiac on June 02, 2013, 02:48:51 pm
Trow them in a HT, they become a mobile supression platform when mixed with the HT MG.


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: brn4meplz on June 02, 2013, 02:53:12 pm
They will be getting a pass over before becoming doctrinal. Use them in a HT and they work great at suppressing.


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: TheIcelandicManiac on June 02, 2013, 03:00:59 pm
Wher HMG supression

Long
0.0125
Mid
0.015
Short
0.015

mg34_support_lmg (Well that is if the support grens are using this gun)

Long
0.008
Mid
0.018
Short
0.016

mg34_lmg  (the normal Wher Gren LMG)

Long
0.0015
Mid
0.003
Short
0.006


Use HT to get mid/short range
Supress everything
???
profit

Also, if you are wondering why you dont ever see it be of much use it because its short range is 0-10, mid is 10-20, long is 20-25 and then it goes to distant which is 25-40 but the distant supression is 0.006.

Granted i tought distant wasnt used in EIR but i guess i was wrong.


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: nikomas on June 02, 2013, 03:50:24 pm
Do I need to remind people of the troll supression IHT's I ran? Two of them in one car or two cars with one each was pretty much "Ohai, I see you're supressed thar!"

So much fun, it's a good support unit imho.


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: Smokaz on June 02, 2013, 03:53:59 pm
If they are only supposed to work with a HT, why not make the unit a ht upgrade..


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: TheIcelandicManiac on June 02, 2013, 03:58:30 pm
Because for 6 pop you can have a unflankable supression platform that dosent die to atgs.


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: brn4meplz on June 02, 2013, 04:42:18 pm
They are not only supposed to work with the HT, they are supposed to work independently. Due to their current stats they will never pin troops and we'd like to look into making that a possibility as well as increasing their lethality.


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: EliteGren on June 02, 2013, 04:47:10 pm
If the IHT is the only way to make them work then what is Wehrmacht supposed to do with them lol? Very well thought out I see

I started this thread after using them on WM so I really get nothing from this


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: EliteGren on June 02, 2013, 04:57:30 pm
^Useless post? If they planned that change before last patch it would have been done already. Since it wasn't, there needs to be some kind of reason why they would be useful on WM. Someone decided to include them as a reward WM unit after all


Title: Re: [PE] Support Grenadiers
Post by: Hicks58 on June 02, 2013, 05:14:22 pm
All reward units were made cross-factional, including Support Grenadiers. Some cross-factional reward units are inherently more useful than others.

As for Support Grenadiers going mainline, it'll depend upon what changes we make to PE as a whole. It may or may not be entirely necessary.