COH: Europe In Ruins

Well a bunch of us got ourselves into the beta, and are enjoying the fuck out of it. Every aspect of the game is a massive improvement over the first. So to make finding heist buddies easier i thought i would start this list of what class you will be going and general play style.

SpartanMarine - Technician/Assault
Terrapin - Enforcer/Guns Blazing
AmPm - Enforcer/Tech
Unkn0wn - Ghost

This game did look interesting.

More details?

They added weapon customization (scopes, rails, etc.), added tons of new missions,  missions are a lot more random in events, there are missions that can span up to 7 days, added Crime.net, added a lot more guns, a fucking metric ton of new mechanics

And there is probably even more stuff that I missed.

Terrapin - Enforcer/Guns Blazing

Anyone got a beta key? I'd love to try this out before deciding if I should throw money at it

Also, this game is only 500 rubels or 12 euros here in Russia, lol...

The fuck are you doing in russia? Anyway, buy it for me then and ill paypal you!

I pmed you on steam

Thats a way better deal. Does my payday talk to me in Angry language for all eternity after though?

I would like a copy. Was about to buy it last night on STEAM.

Nono it takes steam language and no region lock. 12 Euros is the normal edition though. No beta access on that. The other one with 2 beta keys and a bunch of other stuff is like 20. I bought it for dnice and he gave me his extra beta key. Its really good. Talk to me on steam sometime if you want me to buy it or other games. All games here are way cheaper

Well I got Lionel's extra key. and I plan on buying the regular preorder before launch.

I'll have to put some money in my paypal for you soon. lol

Too bad the normal pre-order doesn't come with Beta access.

How much class customization is there, how does the replayabilty seem? Will it be a game played for a week, or longer?

Can't really give you answers on that yet, I've only played it for a little bit, definitely plan to spend more time on it tomorrow though.

The class customization is pretty large, and you can mix and match. On top of that the weapon and mask customization is amazing. As well as the missions are just fun as hell. Ill definitely be playing a while.

I still dont really like how large the waves are thou, the cops feel more like endless waves of zombies with guns than acutal police forces :)
I'm just saying, I don't think most cities can scramble 100 swat/fbi guys that quickly is all :)

But yeah, it's fun if you can overlook a few flaws.

Well, lets not make the cops too realistic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWRVvF_pkhc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWRVvF_pkhc)

Plays video game, expects complete realism

AmPm: Enforcer/Tech

"Realistic" commercial indeed ;)

Would be interesting if they had a mode where you can take a lot less damage but you also have a lot less cops to face. Sort of like a 'realism' mode.
Also, do they have plans of featuring Cops vs Robber gameplay?

Also, I specced Ghost. Unkn0wn on steam.

They said no versus

It seems pretty fucking hard to do a mission stealth-wise, more so with pubbers. Always some goon setting off alarms or killing guards right away. So yeah, so far my ghost spec hasn't been able to get me anywhere...

We've been able to clear out the jewlry store without setting off alarms, but the banks are going to take some cooperation and higher level skills to pull of with some reasonable chance. Meaning jamming, Mastermind for crowdcontrol among other things.

I'm working on mastermind by the way.

I've almost got the body bag skill. Makes moving people possible.
You need higher level skills to do full stealth. Technicians he silent drills which is helpful

God damn I wished I could buy russian games without using a proxy.

Is there a level cap? I don't know if your points max out eventually. I imagine you can't unlock everything

I believe it's 25 in the beta.

ok cool. when i picked my class no one was Ghost. I liked Mastermind, but Lionel already had it. the thing for better bonuses and more cable ties are especially handy. damn civi's always ruin the plan

Yea, I'm moving over from Enforcer to Technician. Also have a scoped AR and a suppressor to put on something, maybe my MAC-10 or a Pistol...

Anyone got a beta key so I can get in on this pro stuff.

Also, and I the only one who truly enjoyed payday 1 even though it was pretty repetitive?

Payday 1 was fun but missions had no replay value. It was always the same sequence of actions and no attention to planning and execution. I'm hoping the sequel is better in this aspect.

Payday 2 has more random elements. its got a random AI director like Left for Dead. I'd like to see a game add a player director slot. timers, costs, NPC additions. it would make replay much better. Even something like a mission editor would go a long way. That would require the devs to make pre fab rooms for placement though, and logic stuff for attaching doorways/walkways to openings. so doors don't open into Air or brick walls.

We played a mission a few times cause people were slow. and each time it was different. (imagine our surprise when a Sniper team got flown in by helicopter and shot terrapin in the face.

I would like to see a better AI, but I think they can work on that later. Right now the only thing that seems silly in retrospect is the police lining up to get shot in doors. You don't notice it too much during the game because you are busy hosing them down with bullets, but afterward you kind of notice it.

Would also like to be able to trade items, maybe we can and I just didn't see the option...

Has anyone tried a suppressed pistol for removing guards?

I have the suppressor, just not sure I want it on my AR. Maybe once I unlock the sawed off for my secondary...

I have a suppressed AK. it works decent depending on the Suppressor. the AK already has a high visibility so make sure it doesnt throw you into the High category. Some suppressors add visibility.(i have the low profile one)

It's still silenced(or as silenced as an AK gets) and people dont seem to notice unless they are like 5m away anyway.

I'm waiting to Silence an MP5 for secondary.

Police aggro in the game is unreal to begin with. 300 officers show up. 299 die in doors, and ALL of them open fire on a building filled with hostages.

I know some of the advanced Police have breaching tools and tasers and they are annoying. but i didn't think a rudimentary cohesive AI for dynamic entries would be hard to do(certainly harder then the current "Place KILL waypoint on active players" but not super difficult) currently the game is more like wave defence.

I'm thinking a silenced primary weapon and my MAC-10/Shotgun for a secondary.

How much better do the guns get? Are the lower level weapons still useful higher up? I'm going to be going up the Tech trees for AR stability, maybe Sentry, and then across to the faster and quieter drills I think.

How did this come as a surprise  :D

This is the number 1 reason to put a scope on your rifle, so you can effectively shoot those bastards...

bad luck me D:

(http://cdn.meme.li/instances/600x/40075105.jpg)

Or the time when there was a taser ever 10 seconds

or a time with Lionel, Shadow (good guy we found) and Terapin where five min into the game a bulldozer comes rushing straight into us.

Bulldozer? WTF lol

I'm still trying to figure out how a single shot rifle will ever be useful...

If it's powerful it will be. I planned on trying it. MP5 and Rifle.

Besides these missions are mostly small. larger missions later on with more use might be applicable

I would love to try one, but I'm not sure it will be that useful in a lot of cases, since the game is obviously all an urban environment with very little long firing lines.

The lanes are long enough. and besides some of the tougher enemies will drop in less shots. Ie, instead of putting 60 rnds into a bulldozer because half of them miss, i can probably drop him in 2-3 shots.(just a guess, maybe less)

Can you still get access to the beta by buying this via steam ?

I honestly think it'll take more unless it's a 50.

Anyone have a beta key they want to spare?

You have to buy the Career Criminal edition to get beta keys

Finished overkill difficulty bank heist with no police, feeels gud

Well, if you can do it without cops it doesn't really matter much what difficulty level you play at

How the hell do you craft masks? I've got tons of patterns and colours apparently but can't figure it out.

Go to the mask section, choose colors, materials, etc. GO!

you need a spare mask tho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5-auvfRdig lol, need to try that on overkill sometime

wouldn't work, need 8 bags on overkill.

Might get half though

The presidential masks look the best, they should be added for payday 2.

(http://static.gamersbook.com/repository/images/_variations/0/1/01cf4d336d878a4e5cf01681d215f7db_content_large.png?v=0)

Could still do it with 8 bags before the first assault happens probably.

As soon as the cops get notified the driver moves the van.

If you could delay the response by dropping a guard and effectively holding the civilians you could do it.

I can run it on overkill in 3 mins(not getting the safe if there is one) and it nets me 50-55K. And thats with checking guards. Killing guards, and entries on the front lobby.

The new one Nightclub is so easy to solo it's hilarious

Did they lower the difficulty on Overkill? I've been doing some with pubs and it's much easier than it used to be. That or I am getting the few that are not retarded into my games...

They didn't lower it, they made it more reasonable.

The tougher units no longer arrive instantly. each assault gets progressively harder. the Assaults are shorter too.

Until we have 7 Dozers 30 seconds into a mission right?

That was an anomaly. and so was the Testudo we had to contend with when the assault ended.

I should hit 30 tonight, so just need the money for stuff. Sounds like it's time to run Rats and Watchdogs.

EASY CASH

step 1: go to the bank

step 2: rob them

step 3: THERE AINT NO STEP 3 YOU RICH NIGGA

jewelry store is the easiest

It pays crap though, best way to make money is Night Club, or a good group for Watchdogs

crap? 50 k  for 3 min? Dont know man, thats pretty good.

Anyway, god damn... Apperently my progress didnt save last time so i lost my crying clown mask! =/

just got 300k spending off of a Firestarter.

Some of the new missions are badass

I'm hoping to get to play more tonight, didn't have a lot of time yesterday.

Payday 2 worth buying? And if so, who of you dirty sluts is going to play with me?

Easily worth the $30

A bunch of us are typically playing

Yeah, its been pretty fun. I am glad i spent the money, and generally up for a Payday

Alright, I took the plunge and spent $29.52 ($.48 saved from my steam wallet aw yeah)

Installing now, hope to get in some games tonight or tomorrow with you all

It's pretty awesome, if you want to level fast, Jewelry store, for money, Frame is good

It took me a while to get it, but I can now solo Framing Frame. With a group I can actually get the money bags in day 2(it the cops start in kill you mode) and it goes faster but 800k is a nice payout

the amount of content to this game, is very simliar to the content given in COH2 ( HARDLY ANY )

Oh Boo Hoo, they gave me only 9 fun as hell missions and promised more. Its also only a 30$ game and had more content then L4D. (BTW content isn't only the missions, its also got a good amount of customization.)

What more are you really wanting for 30?

company of heros, $30 endless fun for years, this game$30, in a week and its boring, unlocked everything, and becomes same thing over and over  ;)

You solo stealth Overkill missions over multiple days?

Also, COH was shit other than EIR

if they dont allow it to be modded, it will die.

That will only be true if no further content is added.

They've said that they plan to support it with a year's worth of patches/DLC, they'd be smart to release modding tools after their year of DLC/patches is finished

i would be fine with just map making tools, although steam workshop would be cool