COH: Europe In Ruins

Can we please get the maps Tank removed put back in like Road to Tobruk and Radar Station?

Radar Station & Tobruk were removed? dafuq

What other classics are missing?

Bring back Radar station!

yea to save our download time i suggest replace forest/neuvile with road to tobru/radar station

boom win

Radar station received 28 plays in 16 months
Road to Tobruk received 14 plays in 16 months

That's out of 5,741 games

just sayin'

stats means nothing tank, its more about morale boost to have those maps. Its like old guys like you having harlley davidson in garage, they ride 1-2 days per year but still happy having bikes and they r more than sure they need bike lol

and how many maps had  less then 5 plays in 16 months ? That are still in rotation

None when I was doing maps. You can see that by reading the forum posts I made at the time.

Yeh I figured just cbf trauling through to find em.

hey tank come to launcher for a game or two, in ya posts i feel like ya aint dat mad as ya used to be. We can make an alliance vs new mods, will be fun. Scumbag jr and Scumbag sr how cool it would be? Very cool

That punctuation.

um shab........ you are pretty much the main reason I decided to leave the mod; so thanks, but no thanks

Please stay on topic - restoring old maps.

yea but i am asking to play a seimple game not a comeback to mod

and how come i am a main reason? i am just a little wheel in huge EIRR demoralizing machine. As i said its ma broken english u just misunderstood me  ;)

If I remember correctly, Tank did a lot of work trying to refine the map list.  I think there was even a time where Neu was removed from 3v3 options just to see what people would use, was pretty lolz.

Please bring back the old dawn, not this bad new rework.

2v2 RTC was removed too, wtf that map is like one of the first ever maps lol

3rd lowest played map in 16 months is probably why it was removed...... but whatever.

I have a question. Does it do anything to keep the maps?. i mean does it lagg a computer or something if there are to many maps. is there any downside to having alot of maps?

apart from them taking up space and making the map list longer, no it should not impact system performance at all.

I don't think that you realize how bad the old dawn was. Large trees and tall grass everywhere, lots of cars and other impassable objects and the playable area being smaller than 2p_Angoville and 4p_France. This is why it what completely neglected for many years.

I think the rework has two issues: too much clutter and being too small for a 3v3. I've tried to resolve these by making some changes to the map and making it a 2v2 map. Which is IMO the only way that this ungodly creation can survive in EIR. I don't think that it's a bad map, it has several improvements over the original and if you still think that there is something wrong with it, please be concise in your criticism.

I am also bringing back Linden. At least that map was decent enough to play.

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Bring back Dawn


Refrain from personal attacks please.

- Moderators.

This is the original Dawn. Does it really look like a map that you want to play? Considering how picky people are about playing any other map than Neuville...

(http://s29.postimg.org/gx8f87g6v/relic00319.jpg)

Make it so it doesnt have the trademark Pony size of russia map.

I did so already, that's one the best things about the new dawn ^^

Wasn't there supposed to be a weekly map rotation? What happened to that?

thats alot of work, and was tanks dept.

Monthy map rotation is roughly what we ended up with.  Much more feasible.

Just don't let me take over, I'd randomly select 5 maps per week (RNG) and those were the only maps you'd get that week.

That was not a joke.

i dont see it even being a bad thing. we would see some other maps besides skaffville and skafforest

You say this now but what if the roll says...

Radar Station
Dawn
Graveyard
Bastion
Chateau

?

I mean, sounds like an interesting week to me but I'm sure some ppl would rage, lol  ;)

what is this hate on skaffa lol  most of guys posting in this thread are active players and you allways wanna play skaffa's maps. What for you shitheads come to forums asking for different maps since you refuse play  other maps but skaffa's produced?

lol

Skaffa makes kinda boring maps, simple and they work, but boring. If variety is the spice of life neuville is the death incarnate.

I don't think anyone is intentionally hating on Skaffa. He is just a casualty of a small minded community.

His maps are grossly overplayed mostly due to players inability to settle on any other map. Many players in this community lack the skill set to take on the challenge of more difficult maps, so they pick the simple ones. To avoid a 20 minute delay in the game from map choice arguments, the majority cave to the old standby Skaffa maps.


This is very well said and very much the truth.

im not hating on skaffa, but im sure if you look at plays Neuville and Forest of both 2v2 and 3v3 varieties are over 9000.

They work, they are fairly even in terms of side advantages.

People have tried to make maps of the same calliber but in the end, people play what people know.

What did people actually play when Neuville and Forest were gone?

More maps, hell if I remember what ones.

i can ensure you guys when top3 maps were removed and if i recall good doctrines were removed almost at the same time not much people left in launcher. It was god's gift get 3-4 games of 2v2 per day. Basically it was 2p_church or france. As for 3v3 not that much game were played because it were no players to fill a 3v3 game lol

lolno, doctrines and maps were diff times.

ugh.... shab. Do you think before you post?

So I numbered up all the maps (seperating by 2v2 and 3v3) and rolled on a random number generator...

3v3
20 = Goodwood
45 = Mcgechens war
23 = Dutch Countryside
5  = Radar Station
36 = Forest

2v2
20 = Brecourt
12 = Church
8 = Industrial Riverbed
16 = Bastogne
10 = Crossroads

Sounds good, should do this :D
Not that I remeber wth Goodwood is, or Feld... musta been gone for some time.

I don't think 2v2 is an issue as people do like to switch up maps there

If that is the case, then I would think they would embrace this idea as it switches it up even further.

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I think this is a great idea. Sure some of the maps suck, but who cares. Everyone is subjected to the same conditions.

yea who cares if a real game player is forced to play map which sucks.. why don't you go and play a game instead of playing on forums you will ses how fun is a game in broken maps with retarded pathing

why dont you just upload all possible maps? Let players decide. I don't get it what is this great deal to keep finished maps in reserve because some1 decided ''yea maps were not played  often enough so yea i am removing them''

Because this is how it normally goes

2 People are fine with pretty much any map
1-2 people refuses to play anything but neuville/insertwhateverthepersonthinksisa"Good"maphere
2 people want simething different but cba to argue with above twats so standard boring maps get played.



If a map sucks it should be removed, if a map doesn't suck it should be eligbe for random play, why do you think most games use random maps for automatch games?

nikomas plz

u r the one how refuses play other maps. nobody else here is so stuborn and sensitive about map choices like u r

Sure... That's why I want to randomize map choices/put it on a rotation, makes perfect sense. That way I'll always get to play the map I want becasue that's how random works!

Seriously, just shut up and stop spouting nonsense.

Let players decide...... hmmmm. How about the devs make it random so the game does not become boring and stagnant.

In regards to bad pathing - 90% of the players that QQ about bad pathing need a serious dose of L2P. They are bad at micro so blame the map for it.

The pathing on Bastion is horrible, but everyone says keep it around for nostalgia. But put out a new map that has way less problems then bastion and everyone is all up in arms about it.

I'd be 100% in favor of nikomas' idea of 5 maps at each level for a week at a time (2v2, 3v3, 4v4(1 or 2 only?)) for a month to see how it goes.

I'd be willing to make it every third day even for varietys sake, it wouldn't be much effort.

mebbe 3 maps per day
or 5 maps every 3/4th day
or 7 maps per week

something like that anyway

I'd favor forced rotation and merciless quelling of any protests.

seconded

I have wanted this for years, so it has my vote!!

That's all well and good, but just remember that certain maps are required for the tournament.

Why not bergen anyway ?
For example crossroads favor the right side :/

than put all maps you guys have in list, make it random choice in game. That will work.

as for L2P comment u aint the 1 who can say that to me tank  ;)

heya my maps

I am a poor player for a couple of reasons shab. One, I am older, so my reflexes are shit. But most importantly, I played about 4 games a month when I was active and have played zero games since my departure from development.

Whats really important is I do not QQ and blame a map for playing shitty. That was the point of my post Shab, people who QQ about maps ruining their game need to L2P.

Shab, if you want to turn this into a pissing match of butt hurt feelings because you think the comments are pointed at you, then feel free to send a PM.

That's retarded. Go play Dawn with a well defended 88. The thing will cover the entire map, almost literally. Is it completely possible to overcome an 88 on Dawn, of course. Does the fact that you can overcome an 88 on Dawn make it any less retarded that the unit becomes far more viable than it otherwise tends to be? No. The same scenario is true in tons of different cases where you can do stupid gimicky things on shitty maps.

88 gets hate cause its a single unit - you might as well turn the argument on the head and say why a poor maplence should be gorked because of some doctrine being able to use the map.

Piats are good on abbeville! Delete Abbeville and ban everyone who hosts on it!

You mean just like having to build a counter spam company? Same Shit Ray.
It's called L2P and counter it.

Granted Dawn (a map that was actually removed but someone QQ about bringing it back) is an extreme example of a poor map condition favoring one unit. But the fact remains that in 99% of all cases, players get out played and blame the map.

People who think they should just be able to click and ignore across an entire map are the ones that QQ.

Omiscience 88s on Any 2v2 map the same dimensions as RTC or Bergen.

Gg

BRING BACK SALENTIJN CASTLE

good call

I think that is a very good point. But again, we are talking about one specific unit on very specific maps. It seems a real shame to scrap a perfectly good map just because of one unit.

No, Dawn is shit because its almost the size of angloville, the 88 example just highlights the problem.