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Title: T4 Balance Vote Post by: CaptainAmerica on December 07, 2008, 10:21:18 am Hey guys, Louis and I were inspired by Akrandas to make a motion to balance the Tier4s out a bit to make the game more playable.
The following changes we came up with are things we personally considered problematic and potentially game ruining for players on both sides. I know this will kick up a massive s***storm by people who argue "but axis get X OR but Allies get Y". This thread is not about the advantages the one side has and therefore balance overall. This post is PURELY ABOUT TIER 4 BALANCE ISSUES. It would be nice if people merely posted A) AGREED B) DISAGREE Then we could gather a consensus and NOT A DEBATE. Allies- Infantry T4 Artilley: take off the decreased time (back to 3 seconds) Tank Reapers: Decrease effects to 25%, extend effect to Bazookas (Stickies maybe?) Airborne Air Supririorty: Decrease uses of all 3 offmaps by 1 Raid Assault: Reduce HP bonus Axis Terror Subversion: Reduce sabotage effect to 1 Defensive Ominscience: Decrease to "Increase sight range by 15%" Tenacious Faith: Decrease cost to 10% Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: BradAnderson on December 07, 2008, 10:23:07 am Agreed.
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Stuart750 on December 07, 2008, 10:29:01 am All Axis Companies:
Eliminate all doctrine abilities and Resource bonuses, and award stickers and high-fives instead. I agree. Stuart is always right. Listen to him. As do I. As an Australian fellow, myself, (being Australian) I declare my allegiance to Stuart on behalf of all Oceaniac people, including Akranadas. All Hail! Surrender to Stuart, he is our supreme king, who will not lead us into traps and follies alike! I am very mysterious. I have a cloak. I cast my completely legitimate and unfraudulent vote for Stuart. Following him is certainly NOT a trap! If you don't listen to him, kill-your-self! Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Unkn0wn on December 07, 2008, 10:30:14 am Agreed on the concept, disagreed on the actual suggested changes.
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: CommanderNewbie on December 07, 2008, 10:33:06 am I disagree, because I don't believe this is how it should be done.
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: 31stPzGren on December 07, 2008, 10:34:43 am Agreed on the concept, disagreed on the actual suggested changes. Agree. Figures require tweaking. Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Tymathee on December 07, 2008, 10:36:03 am I share what unknown feels. Let's make a discussion thread.
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: donnieDark on December 07, 2008, 10:40:11 am This is utter crap. You trying to take away the only thing that makes infantry company useful and adjust axis doctrines that arent that game shattering.
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Tymathee on December 07, 2008, 10:52:04 am This is utter crap. You trying to take away the only thing that makes infantry company useful and adjust axis doctrines that arent that game shattering. i made a discussion thread, respect their wishes. Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: UnLimiTeD2 on December 07, 2008, 10:53:19 am Disagreed along the line.
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: CaptainAxis on December 07, 2008, 11:10:06 am Disagreed Along the Line?
Er? What does that mean? Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: minehold on December 07, 2008, 11:12:14 am i dont agree with tenacious faith, it is balanced, the allies can get 15% less cost on all infantry at a t3, and the price of cps tenacious faith costs and its a t4 so it should be 35%
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: CaptainAxis on December 07, 2008, 11:14:15 am Disagree or Agree.
If you want to discuss, go to Discussion. This post is to acknowledge that the above stated doctrine abilities are in need of change. Figures and details at this point are merely provisional. Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Mysthalin_Armor on December 07, 2008, 01:21:59 pm Retardedness unlimited in your proposals.
Epic Disagree Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Killer344 on December 07, 2008, 03:42:58 pm Disagree.
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: winisez on December 07, 2008, 05:00:17 pm um...agree on the concepts, numbers need fixing.
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: slowzo on December 07, 2008, 06:00:14 pm im pretty sure this has already been addressed by a higher power.
disagree Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: winisez on December 07, 2008, 06:51:28 pm how so? most of us have heard nothing or this, or seen evidence of it, or am i just ignorant?
i thought the eirmod guy was just helping us keep the website together and such. he has no obligation to do anything, or that's what i thought. its all his/her prerogative. Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Unkn0wn on December 07, 2008, 07:16:04 pm No, he's already stated the doctrine system will be completely redone.
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: mattrin on December 07, 2008, 07:48:59 pm agreedisagree
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: ssystem on December 07, 2008, 07:54:55 pm Agreed on the concept, disagreed on the actual suggested changes. Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: PPLA on December 07, 2008, 07:56:42 pm I agree with the need for change but disagree with the nu,bers and whats getting changed
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Unkn0wn on December 08, 2008, 08:39:52 am ^
(http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/files/images/080211_change.jpg) Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: gungun. on December 08, 2008, 08:55:59 am ^
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fKjCZyqaAaU/SIkj-7NfcII/AAAAAAAABuc/_Um3e5E8wkk/s1600/obama_poster_hitler_yesweca.gif) Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Kolath on December 08, 2008, 03:56:02 pm disagree with some
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Draken on December 08, 2008, 04:13:22 pm (http://upload.current.com/uploads/r1uTvl.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff302/slypuck2/ObamaHellNo.jpg) Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Simplicity on December 20, 2008, 10:03:10 pm other than tenious faith, i agree. perhaps make tenious faith 15%
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: DasNoob on December 20, 2008, 10:18:10 pm disagree
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: MistenTH on December 20, 2008, 10:23:54 pm The only way anything is gonna happen is if the numbers-guy just iron fists the changes through, watch the fallout, then change again.
Debating about it is going to do nothing but result in a couple of dozen balance threads. The question though, is whether the numbers-guy is going to be doing anything anytime soon. Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Killer344 on December 21, 2008, 12:34:09 am He said no more balance changes until EIR Reinforcements is out.
Title: Re: T4 Balance Vote Post by: Flack on December 21, 2008, 06:43:17 am Epic disagree.
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