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omgNiko Offline
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« on: June 03, 2013, 11:08:11 am »

is moving-fire-brens implemented? haven't tried, just wondering
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EliteGren Offline
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2013, 11:10:35 am »

It's not. Been only what, a year? Give them time dude
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 11:24:13 am »

It's not. Been only what, a year? Give them time dude

Actually think its been like 2.

I got it working in my mod pretty easily( not sure how eirr is) i mean they fired into the ground but thats besides the point. they would need a accuracy buff moving accuracy i think is bayed on em by default
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 12:18:10 pm »



I got it working in my mod pretty easily

lol he has mod, wut a troll u r, l2playEirrGame instead of modding
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 12:26:35 pm »

to be honest, I don't get why they don't just release patch notes with a load of kickass abilities that everyone loves, then just put (not implemented) like half the abilities and just say were working on it, like they have for the last year trolololol, dat way errbody happylence mayne.
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 01:52:41 pm »

It's not. Been only what, a year? Give them time dude
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 01:59:52 pm »

Well i think the main reason why it hasnt been implemtend is because its really useless, what would make a lot more sence would be to remove the aimtime as the moving accuracy 0.3 at short and that aint taking into account the epic as fuck modifyers(actually super shitty vs inf) vs everything the bren has. in short, it would be super useless and im quite sure you would rather want a 5% more acc in cover than that.
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CrazyWR Offline
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2013, 02:39:23 pm »

well a lot of people completely disagree and have been waiting for awhile for this ability to be implemented.  However, despite several pms, nothing has been done for it, and last I heard in response from the devs, hasn't even been looked at.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 02:40:26 pm »

So, convince me why it would be usefull?
i would love to be converted to the cause.

Anyways, all you need to do to make it able to mvoe and fire is to change a True to False, Super simple.
Granted i would love to know how it would affect button and if it would be able to move and button at the same time, too lazy to mod it myself.
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omgNiko Offline
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 03:50:33 pm »

Well i think the main reason why it hasnt been implemtend is because its really useless, what would make a lot more sence would be to remove the aimtime as the moving accuracy 0.3 at short and that aint taking into account the epic as fuck modifyers(actually super shitty vs inf) vs everything the bren has. in short, it would be super useless and im quite sure you would rather want a 5% more acc in cover than that.
in what way are moving brens super useless? listen to urself, lol. brens are fuckin sick and u can get LT to buff the damage since u seem so butthurt about how low it is even tho theyre dope. firing on the move gives the squad a multitude of increased functionality, now a very reliable fireteam for assaults and other mobile combat. effectively one of the most economical infantry choices possible once this gets implemented.
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2013, 04:17:04 pm »

So,
Bren
Long range acc/cooldown
0.2 acc 1.5 cool
Mid
0.4 acc 1 cool
short
0.6 acc 0.6 cool


Even tough RSE dont get the commando officer im just gonna use him as its pretty much the same as a vet 2 officer but cant buff marines.

The commando officer grants 1.25 acc and 1.1 acc buffs, 0.65 cooldown modifyer and then 0.9 reload modifyer.

That with all stacked makes it
long
0.275 acc 0.975 cool
mid
0.55 acc 0.65 cool
short
0.825 acc 0.325 cool

Pretty sweet right?
its fucking epic, now lets add Moving modifyers, moving with brens dosent have a cooldown modifyer so it pretty much stays the same.

long
0.137 acc 0.975 cool
mid
0.275 acc 0.65 cool
short
0.412 acc 0.325 cool

Still pretty good, now lets actually add the Target table.

Infantry armour has a 0.75 damadge modifyer against brens which means instead of 5 damadge per shot it deals 3.75, all other acc modifyers are the same.
Airborne armour is the same with 3.75 dam but also has a moving modifyer which means that if the target is moving it has another 0.75 multiplication ontop of the accuracy of the bren.
Heroic has the 0.75 damadge so it also deals only 3.75 per shot and then it has a hilarious 0.78 Acc modifyer which means that it not only deals 3.75 dam but also makes the bren have

0.106 acc 0.975 cool
mid
0.214 acc 0.65 cool
short
0.321 acc 0.325 cool

But heroic does not have the Moving accuracy modifyer so dont worry about that.

Elite Armour has the basic 0.75 Recived acc from the bren which instead makes it

0.102 acc 0.975 cool
mid
0.206 acc 0.65 cool
short
0.309 acc 0.325 cool

and like almost everything else also only deals 3.75 dam per shot

Sniper armour is all just 1s so the sniper is

long
0.137 acc 0.975 cool
mid
0.275 acc 0.65 cool
short
0.412 acc 0.325 cool

Soldier armour was once the pinicle of the PE empire but was removed for the shitty Infantry armour with a slight health buff but soldier armour has a 0.75 recived acc but a wopping 0.5 damadge modifyer which means that

0.102 acc 0.975 cool
mid
0.206 acc 0.65 cool
short
0.309 acc 0.325 cool

But deals 2.5 damadge per shot


So, ultimatly brens are pretty nice with a vet 2 officer but moving is about as usefull as shitting in a coffie cup.

Anyways, this is pretty much what i get out of it but if someone knows RGDs better than i and sees what i did wrong then please do as i have noidea what im doing.





Oh yea, i also forgot cover modifyers.

If the target is in
heavy cover, add 0.5 acc and 0.5 damadge ontop of whatever armour you wish to imagine the target is in.
Light Cover Add 0.5 acc
No cover/Open Cover Add 1.25 acc and 1.25 damadge
and so on and on.
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2013, 04:50:58 pm »

about as usefull as shitting in a coffie cup.

1. i thought it was funny we named you bear grylls of EIRR and u make this example.

2.When you g2g u g2g.

3. If only PaK used coffie cups he might be with us today.
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2013, 04:52:32 pm »

EIRR wasnt the place that named me that, My workplace did.
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2013, 04:55:00 pm »

EIRR wasnt the place that named me that, My workplace did.
ya ok kid anywho whatever your codename for Home you go by itsk.
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2013, 04:59:35 pm »

Here's why things like this take forever or get missed......

Generally speaking it falls into one of two categories:

1.) The coder is not sure how to code it, or is having troubles making th code work as intended (same thing)
2.) It was forgotten over the months. It may have been posted, but just like this thread, it turns into a bunch of bullshit posts and arguments, or insults on the devs. The dev team roughly scans it, scores it up to another useless thread and it gets forgotten.

So ya, that about sums that up.
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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2013, 05:01:47 pm »

Noted
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