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« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2010, 05:18:29 pm »

still... fireflys are not the counter for p4s.

and if you have firefly that also means you have no 25 pop starin callin in ur battalion.
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« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2010, 05:20:52 pm »

They are counters to the p4 once the plays get more population or in 3v3s. But on their own they just shoot p4s. They can't disable them or slow them down. On their own they are more like a AT gun. The reason people diss the firefly in this thread is because its high pop, needs a CCT and its facing generalists that can beat it under a few regularity occurring situations, tank buffs, global abilities etc.
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« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2010, 06:42:37 pm »

i'm tellin u, this is the best call in vs that easy.

double piat + cromwell + bren gun carrier + foo captain

if you button one, hit it with the foo, take it out with cromwell, the other p4 starts going after the bren gun carrier everytime, and u hit that with the piat, one p4 down, finish it with the cromwell, done. barely lose anything.
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« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2010, 07:26:53 pm »

i dont understand how people lose tanks to piats when they aren't buttoned...they can't hit anything that moves...
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« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2010, 09:23:57 pm »

i dont understand how people lose tanks to piats when they aren't buttoned...they can't hit anything that moves...

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« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2010, 10:42:27 pm »

a firefly is in my 25 pop call in. best call in ive ever tried out. end of story
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« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2010, 12:17:21 am »

i dont understand how people lose tanks to piats when they aren't buttoned...they can't hit anything that moves...

retarded pathing, ambush sappers. shooting above hedges/buildings...

yeah u can save your tank but then its pop is wasted because when ever you drive towards the enemy and the piats shot you will get hit
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« Reply #47 on: May 07, 2010, 09:08:11 am »

ok, ff's do work a good call in would be a ff, cct and a stag for scouting. Thats a 22 pop callin.

My preferred would be recon tommy, bren tommy, 6pdr, 2 piats.
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« Reply #48 on: May 07, 2010, 11:02:45 am »

your preferred would be very weak against a 'normal' start.  That is the point of this thread, finding a start that can handle both a dual p4 start and a 'normal' start.  Several have been listed, most recently in Tym's post.
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« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2010, 11:11:26 am »

Thats why I said 8 Commando PIATs or 7 Commando PIATs and a Lt and Cpt. PIATs destroy tanks and Commando PIATs destroy infantry just as well
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« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2010, 12:42:56 pm »

Thats why I said 8 Commando PIATs or 7 Commando PIATs and a Lt and Cpt. PIATs destroy tanks and Commando PIATs destroy infantry just as well

MG + Mortar + Pak + P4 + Schwim.

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Or : 2x MP40 volks, 1x Vanilla volk, Stug, Schwim.
GG too.
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« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2010, 12:45:42 pm »

thats a lie. COmmando PIATs shit on everything
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« Reply #52 on: May 07, 2010, 02:22:32 pm »

1 nebel >
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« Reply #53 on: May 07, 2010, 02:24:21 pm »

except they don't...
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« Reply #54 on: May 07, 2010, 02:24:56 pm »

Puddin disagrees
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« Reply #55 on: May 07, 2010, 02:25:59 pm »

Puddin's PIATS happened to have 3 PIATs and 2 stens per squad, as well as fallschirmjager cloak. The PIATs he used to have access too were indeed far better.
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« Reply #56 on: May 07, 2010, 05:53:51 pm »

your preferred would be very weak against a 'normal' start.  That is the point of this thread, finding a start that can handle both a dual p4 start and a 'normal' start.  Several have been listed, most recently in Tym's post.

bren and tommy in heavy cover, tommy gets that one snipe and together deal heavy damage. place piats behind buildings or hedgerows and it deals with everything
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« Reply #57 on: May 07, 2010, 06:03:59 pm »

Let me know how that goes against 1 axis mortar.
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« Reply #58 on: May 07, 2010, 07:20:01 pm »

who cares anyway,

NO ONE USES DOUBLE P4 START!


tiger start, for example, is something you see much more.
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« Reply #59 on: May 07, 2010, 08:12:14 pm »

Double P4 was more common when they could field 6 P4's the change to Fuel advantages changed the dynamic of that. Now even if your dual P4 start has a good effect they will counter with heavy AT when they come on again and you'll (most likely) lose 2 of 5 Panzer 4's
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