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« Reply #60 on: June 04, 2009, 11:42:50 am »

Also i dont think the commando "Emergency Exit" doctrine ability is working either.
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« Reply #61 on: June 04, 2009, 11:49:49 am »

Does it say completed in red?
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« Reply #62 on: June 04, 2009, 12:39:21 pm »

is it assumed that with the Pgren upman change that you've also changed the capacity of infantry half tracks to fit 10 men instead of 8?
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« Reply #63 on: June 04, 2009, 12:41:48 pm »

No it doesnt say completed but it doesnt say imcompleted like others.
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« Reply #64 on: June 04, 2009, 12:43:34 pm »


Yet when i go to check they dont say imcompleted -.-

And the smoke cooldown doesnt work (from vet 2 and 3) Shocked
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« Reply #65 on: June 04, 2009, 12:44:11 pm »

The geschutzwagen has a marder gun, and also has these "traits" :

1. Insanely hard to hit.
2. Snipes ATGs.
3. Instasuppresing MG.
4. Instaraping gun vs tanks.
5. In the race that already has an extreme abundance of high-power AT.
6. Is fielded against the side with the quite inferior tanks(remember, no pershings for around 2 months).
7. Still has rapid fire mode

Equals quite a lot of OPness. I'm just glad it's no longer the Gwagen gun with it's retarded 250 damage, and only 150... It's supposedly getting a nerf soon enough, though. I hope it's true, because if you thought paks were a problem... this baby is 10 times worse when in conjunction with one.
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« Reply #66 on: June 04, 2009, 12:44:55 pm »

PzGrens 4 man, upgrade to 5 man squads.
Tank Busters and Assault, upgrade removed (4 man squad at all times)

Other unit populations corrected.
Are they supposed to stay at 4 population?
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« Reply #67 on: June 04, 2009, 12:51:06 pm »

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1. Insanely hard to hit.
2. Snipes ATGs.
3. Instasuppresing MG.
4. Instaraping gun vs tanks.
5. In the race that already has an extreme abundance of high-power AT.
6. Is fielded against the side with the quite inferior tanks(remember, no pershings for around 2 months).
7. Still has rapid fire mode

1. It should be the same as with a Marder.
2. No, it has a slightly shorter range and they both kill each other with 3 hits, guaranteed pen and
3. No.
4. yes
5. yes
6. yes
7. but it's different from the Marder's, munitions ability that has a cooldown
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« Reply #68 on: June 04, 2009, 01:01:15 pm »

1. It is, with the exception of it having a smaller hitbox, so "missed" shots have a lower chance to hit as well. The hit rate of the 57 vs GWG is also appauling at long range.

2. Range is exact same of 60 on both, GWG kills ATG in 2 shots. ATG has 65 percent chance to hit a GWG at long range. Drops further to 48.75% if there's light and/or medium cover in the sightline of the two units, from which the ATG does not benefit due to it not having vehicle cover.
GWG has 48.75% chance to hit the ATG at long range. So yeah, it's kind of a sniper vs ATGs.

3. The MG is quite indeed instasuppresing. Not as bad as the IHT, but still bad enough.

7. I meant that it's using an ability that was meant for it's originaly very slowly firing main gun on a gun that has quite a healthy ROF indeed.
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« Reply #69 on: June 04, 2009, 01:03:43 pm »

Wow, another thing that can easily destroy 57mm, the life of those ain't that easy.
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« Reply #70 on: June 04, 2009, 01:07:34 pm »

Geschutzwagen is likely made doctrine specific soon.
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« Reply #71 on: June 04, 2009, 01:15:30 pm »

2. Range is exact same of 60 on both, GWG kills ATG in 2 shots. ATG has 65 percent chance to hit a GWG at long range. Drops further to 48.75% if there's light and/or medium cover in the sightline of the two units, from which the ATG does not benefit due to it not having vehicle cover.
GWG has 48.75% chance to hit the ATG at long range. So yeah, it's kind of a sniper vs ATGs.


Eh what? It's a "Sniper" because it has the same chances to hit on long range? I don't get your logic here.

ATG has 65 percent chance to hit a GWG at long range
GWG has 48.75% chance to hit the ATG at long range.

Aha, so who snipes who?

Drops further to 48.75% if there's light and/or medium cover in the sightline of the two units, from which the ATG does not benefit due to it not having vehicle cover.

So only if theres a lot of crap around, the atg drops to the same chance as the GWG?

Again, why do you call it a atg sniper then?

And i will never let my GWG try to snipe an Atg, that will always end badly for the GWG.
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« Reply #72 on: June 04, 2009, 01:17:05 pm »

When's the last time you saw a map that didin't have at least a little fence within 2 screens?
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« Reply #73 on: June 04, 2009, 01:18:12 pm »

When's the last time you saw a map that didin't have at least a little fence within 2 screens?

Try to do it what you said with a GWG, and send me the replay.
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« Reply #74 on: June 04, 2009, 01:54:43 pm »

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PzGrens 4 man, upgrade to 5 man squads.

I'm not entirely sure that's wise, I'd keep it under observation.
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« Reply #75 on: June 04, 2009, 01:58:45 pm »

It's only for vanilla PGs anyways, you can't upgrade TBs or AGs anymore.
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« Reply #76 on: June 04, 2009, 01:59:04 pm »

stuff said
wait a minute Baine, the atg is supposed to counter tanks.
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« Reply #77 on: June 04, 2009, 02:04:35 pm »


What? I didn't otherwise did i? I just stated that the GWG sniping atg won't happen.
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« Reply #78 on: June 04, 2009, 02:05:54 pm »

According to stats it is most likely going to happen but nvm. I need to see them in action.
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