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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2010, 01:58:52 am » |
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I would be interested to know what the DOT damage from the nebel to the 25 pounder was/is now.
25 pounder gets more resistance to nebel damage? About the same price. If 25 pounder hits (or near-miss) nebel once, its at the very least decrewed. I could be wrong, but the vice versa wasn't true. A small tradeoff due to the mobility issues is acceptable, sure. Thoughts??
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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2010, 03:19:03 am » |
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having such a drastic change on t17 like stun removal should require a price lowering tbh and a pool value of 3 like stag , 8 pop, they are practicaly the same now BUT the stag still has more hp in standard than t17 and gets the 50 cal upgrade for 50 mu now only , balancing is clearly off here because either stag price has been buffed too much or t17 is over priced now seeing as staghound is in all british doctrines and t17 is only 1 doctrine
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2010, 03:26:07 am » |
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having such a drastic change on t17 like stun removal should require a price lowering tbh and a pool value of 3 like stag , they are practicaly the same now
it still rapes inf and support weapons but now can be effectively countered by a tank. Treat it like a LV not as a PWNMachine be gentle with it :3 |
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2010, 03:28:10 am » |
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having such a drastic change on t17 like stun removal should require a price lowering tbh and a pool value of 3 like stag , they are practicaly the same now
it still rapes inf and support weapons but now can be effectively countered by a tank. Treat it like a LV not as a PWNMachine be gentle with it :3 i'm not talking about what it does and not , i'm saying that it's british counterpart is now cheaper and better ostwind stuh and armored cars also "still rapes inf and support weapons but now can be effectively countered by a tank." |
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2010, 03:47:49 am » |
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having such a drastic change on t17 like stun removal should require a price lowering tbh and a pool value of 3 like stag , they are practicaly the same now
it still rapes inf and support weapons but now can be effectively countered by a tank. Treat it like a LV not as a PWNMachine be gentle with it :3 i'm not talking about what it does and not , i'm saying that it's british counterpart is now cheaper and betterostwind stuh and armored cars also "still rapes inf and support weapons but now can be effectively countered by a tank." ok..? your point being? and i doubt Stag is still better then the T17 against infantry as the accuracy on the main gun at infantry has not change. and the 50.cal on the Stag is what did the most damage. since its being nerfed it will not be as good as it used to be. |
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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2010, 03:49:01 am » |
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ok..? your point being?
my earlier post balancing is clearly off here because either stag price has been buffed too much or t17 is over priced now seeing as staghound is in all british doctrines and t17 is only 1 doctrine |
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« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2010, 04:17:58 am » |
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*Staghound from 350 Mp 80 F to 340 Mp 50 F
*Staghound MG from 85 Mu to 50 Mu
*Staghound from 4 Vehicle Pool to 3 vehicle Pool Iam stopping playing... Send me email when u fix that... Thanks! |
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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2010, 04:22:25 am » |
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NEvermind! It was there: Guys who are worried about staghound, please notice this change: *Staghound MG changed to American HT MG.
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« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2010, 04:42:16 am » |
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The Staghound has the same gun as the stuart but its MG is about x3 better than 1 50 Cal. It had more supression than wirblewind and more damage than any MG in the game.
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« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2010, 04:52:08 am » |
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I'm done for awhile. Someone let me know when you start listening to good players for balance instead of relying on how many shit players can whine about something for balancing.
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« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2010, 04:54:35 am » |
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« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2010, 05:01:49 am » |
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I believe you'll find that the 'good players' generally agree with the steps we took +1 |
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« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2010, 05:20:55 am » |
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I believe you'll find that the 'good players' generally agree with the steps we took +1 +2 i always adapt anyway |
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« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2010, 06:02:50 am » |
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I believe you'll find that the 'good players' generally agree with the steps we took +1 +2 i always adapt anyway +3 |
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« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2010, 06:20:06 am » |
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What's the exact stuart change, other than the M8 armor? I mean, I'm looking at the gun in the RGDs and it doesn't seem any different from before.
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« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2010, 07:16:54 am » |
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When you think that the T17 was fine before the patch than you don't belong to "good players".
And we will see how the ranger change affects their numbers now.
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« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2010, 07:23:18 am » |
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Stag I agree with the MG needed to be changed, HT MG is not unreasonable.
Now two things I would love to see, is the .50cal upgrade on the Sherman and Hellcat being like the Halftrack MG, I hate the idea of paying so much for an MG that barely hits anything as opposed to the free one that is worth way more its weight in gold. The other, which I am loving rangers, is the ability for double bazooka on riflemen. Riflemen bazooka squads are horrid at countering PE if a mass of HTs rush their position and just point blank suppress them and rape them all, while a ranger squad has double the firepower and the better armor to resist suppression, and should they still get suppressed can instantly break it to keep on fighting the HTs. Would love to see that option for riflemen, with the 'Bazooka' unlock choice (which means US Infantry only, not Armor or airborne of course guys).
Also, the smoke grenades... are they the same for all US infantry (the specialist grenades and the assault team ones)? They have unlimited uses but have such a tiny area of effect and don't even last the full 10 seconds it takes to recharge them (which means if they get suppressed they're never getting out of it since the smoke seems to run out like 7 seconds or so into it, and is very short range).
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« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2010, 07:30:49 am » |
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Nice patch, but still: "Nawh, I have recently started to have fun with instagibbing blobs with stuarts".  |
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« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2010, 08:17:34 am » |
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I'm done for awhile. Someone let me know when you start listening to good players for balance instead of relying on how many shit players can whine about something for balancing.
What are you so unhappy about? These are good changes. |
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« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2010, 08:35:27 am » |
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Is there also a price reduce for storm-schrecks?
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