17 pounder under snip

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[rai0]

" - AT guns are 50% less accurate against other AT guns. This will stop cloaked 'Pak sniping' of 57mms. "

  17pounder also affected ?
 will be harder to snip em? Its funny, just bout 3-4 snipin shots, and 17p down   

 r

[Tymathee]

hmm, good question, depends on what class the 17 pdr is. If it's in the bunker class, then its not effected cuz it's not a "towed gun"

ok, just checked, 17pdr and other emplacements are considered "check points" and paks get 300% acc, and 50% dmg vs them. also 300% penetration

[rai0]

lolek

paks, PE fire morts, morts..    emplacements becomin littl bit uselles. 
r

[Two]

a little bit more useless

[rai0]

more then more

[puddin]

Guys... Emplacments have never been and will never be the backjbone of the army for the brits.  They are always very very easily killed even 9in VCOH.  Give me 3 stukas, and emplacements die. 

The 25pounder is increably effective.  And the 17pounder can be a huge advantage.  Pop 1 down and the firing arce is massive compaired to other AT guns plus the dmg. 

Look, they are ment to be used to support ur troops not to have tons of.

[MistenTHA]

If you can use emplacements in EiR:R effectively Puddin, kindly share a replay and some tips with the rest of us. Most people haven't been able to get them to work well.

They are easier to kill here, and lack of quick response mobility makes them die easily to indirect fire and flanking.

In vCoH you can park them on an important sector, denying resources to your enemy while buffing your own. This in turn grants Brits a technology advantage, with better units taking on lower tech units. These 2 bonuses is not present in EiR:R.

For their resource and pop cost at the moment, a .30 cal and a 57mm ATG will beat out the MG nest and 17 pounder in utility and flexibility.

[Khorney]

i never have more than 4 emplacements in my army, a 17 (+backup one) a bofors, and a vickers (which hardly counts). you should never have more than 2 on at once, but they have thankfully low popcap for their potential. you should always have your max of 2 fireflys for your main anti-tank. they just get mortared into oblivion by any competent player.

that said, the new setup time has made them infinitely more useful, and able to setup in much more controlling arcs, whereas before they would be rushed mid setup by the tank they were supposed to be taking down, or placed too far back to be effective.

the paks are annoying, but most axis players have a tendancy to steer well away, as it can normally take out a PAK if it is revealed. shrecks are much more troublesome to your 17 pndr's

[puddin]

use emplacments well?  Sure.  heres what u do.  Build 1 at a time, cover your flank with a bofrs and attack up a road, when they truy to flank around and suprise you, boom they die. 

look.  *Use emplacements in 1 maybe 2 at a time and suddenly they work veyr very well.

use 3-4 at a time and u will lose unless your an expert