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[rifle87654]

Not bad.

[Computer991]

How does it work? I have to plan ahead

Think of a neble but that fires straight at you,like a stuh without the tank?

[Tymathee]

but can be decrewed and used against you . me want! AFter i get my omni, i'm getting my rocket arty deleted and playing with those babies.

so, does the shell coming out the nebel look like a stuh or like a rocket cuz well u know, the nebel doesn't exactly look like an arty gun..

[brn4meplz]

A rocket comes out. Slow tanks beware. this thing hurts

[gamesguy2]

but can be decrewed and used against you . me want! AFter i get my omni, i'm getting my rocket arty deleted and playing with those babies.

so, does the shell coming out the nebel look like a stuh or like a rocket cuz well u know, the nebel doesn't exactly look like an arty gun..

Here:

http://www.xfire.com/video/2ffd07/

The pak36 is basically an ostwind on an ATG platform, more accuracy and longer ranged, but obviously unable to kite and no 360 degree arc.  It can shoot down planes provided it is pointed in the right direction.

The 280mm Nebel is the unholy spawn of a stuka and a stuh.  It does less damage to infantry than a stuh and has worse scatter, but it is also okish against tanks(provided you can hit them).  It fires exactly like a stuh, so the shot doesn't track and takes a while to land, making it fairly worthless against fast moving targets.

[fallensoldier7]

Is that the actual accuracy in the video?  As in, if I had one of those pak things shooting an AB MG squad, the MG squad would not die in that many shots?

[gamesguy2]

Is that the actual accuracy in the video?  As in, if I had one of those pak things shooting an AB MG squad, the MG squad would not die in that many shots?

No they were shooting at the building, for obvious reasons I couldn't target my own units.

[Jazzhead]

The new nebl is just ridiculous tbfh. It has crazy range and is strong against pretty much everything. It's ROF is very high too given the amount of damage it already does. The worst part about it though is its damage resistance. It's not like a normal support weapon where small arms and nades do damage. A direct nade did no damage at all. Even AB just scratched it...

I'm all for new units, but this one needs to seriously be rethought.

[CrazyWR]

Can you explain the change to henschel?  You mean one plane at a time for a duration, or one plane only once?

[DarkSoldierX]

One plane flys by once. Last game either I had A bad roll or his accursey still kinda sucks.

[CrazyWR]

wow, thats ridiculous...make it a t1 then.  Unless it can instagib a pershing in that one shot, its pretty weak. 

[DarkSoldierX]

hurt like 15% off a sherman but just 1 shot hit.

[DarkSoldierX]

I just looked at the RGDs supposed to do 200 dammage but it sure didnt look like anything like 200.

Edit: I must be looking at the wrong one because it also shows 100% accursey at all ranges even if its moving....

[gamesguy2]

The new nebl is just ridiculous tbfh. It has crazy range and is strong against pretty much everything. It's ROF is very high too given the amount of damage it already does. The worst part about it though is its damage resistance. It's not like a normal support weapon where small arms and nades do damage. A direct nade did no damage at all. Even AB just scratched it...

I'm all for new units, but this one needs to seriously be rethought.

I found it to be fairly mediocre.  Accuracy is bad, can't hit moving vehicles at all unless you're shooting at a churchill.

I'm not sure what you are on about with the damage resistance comment.  Considering it has exactly the same armor type and provides the exactly the same cover as a pak/57mm, the crew is also exactly the same as a pak crew.

I think people need to stop exaggerating and actually try units out before whining they're OP.

[salan]

I like that nebel and pak 36.. gives me good ideas.. portable 20mm gun like in saving private ryan!

[Jazzhead]

The new nebl is just ridiculous tbfh. It has crazy range and is strong against pretty much everything. It's ROF is very high too given the amount of damage it already does. The worst part about it though is its damage resistance. It's not like a normal support weapon where small arms and nades do damage. A direct nade did no damage at all. Even AB just scratched it...

I'm all for new units, but this one needs to seriously be rethought.

I found it to be fairly mediocre.  Accuracy is bad, can't hit moving vehicles at all unless you're shooting at a churchill.

I'm not sure what you are on about with the damage resistance comment.  Considering it has exactly the same armor type and provides the exactly the same cover as a pak/57mm, the crew is also exactly the same as a pak crew.

I think people need to stop exaggerating and actually try units out before whining they're OP.

So what you're saying is, b/c my opinion is not yours, it's wrong and wildly exaggerated? Just b/c i'm not a dev doesn't mean i can't comment on what happened in a game.

Here you go then
http://www.filefront.com/16998271/temp.rec
http://www.filefront.com/16998295/EuropeInRuinsBattle.sga

p.s. I was wondering Brn how did you already have a vet3 new nebl?

[CrazyWR]

brn tests the new units...why they need to be vet3 is beyond me though. 

[CrazyWR]

why are rifle nades only 70 munitions for luft, but 75 for brits?

[CrazyWR]

also, g43s are 65 for falls, but 60 for pgs?

[gamesguy2]

The new nebl is just ridiculous tbfh. It has crazy range and is strong against pretty much everything. It's ROF is very high too given the amount of damage it already does. The worst part about it though is its damage resistance. It's not like a normal support weapon where small arms and nades do damage. A direct nade did no damage at all. Even AB just scratched it...

I'm all for new units, but this one needs to seriously be rethought.

I found it to be fairly mediocre.  Accuracy is bad, can't hit moving vehicles at all unless you're shooting at a churchill.

I'm not sure what you are on about with the damage resistance comment.  Considering it has exactly the same armor type and provides the exactly the same cover as a pak/57mm, the crew is also exactly the same as a pak crew.

I think people need to stop exaggerating and actually try units out before whining they're OP.

So what you're saying is, b/c my opinion is not yours, it's wrong and wildly exaggerated? Just b/c i'm not a dev doesn't mean i can't comment on what happened in a game.

Here you go then
http://www.filefront.com/16998271/temp.rec
http://www.filefront.com/16998295/EuropeInRuinsBattle.sga

p.s. I was wondering Brn how did you already have a vet3 new nebl?

No, I'm saying you are whining about something that is literally identical to 57mm and paks.  You are saying the nebel crew is too tough when they are exactly the same as a pak crew.

So yeah, I think you are exaggerating quite a bit.

Burn has a vet 3 because he played like 3 games and got it to vet 3.  The vet reqs are the same as a pak.