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« on: July 12, 2009, 04:12:23 pm » |
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Right, please take your time AmPM and tell me how the cromwell being utterly useless makes them balanced while the p4 being ownage is balanced. I guess anyone could watch how fail the crom is, and yet i call them on hoping this is the game i would finally see his point. Just watch the crom miss, what would be easy vet for a p4 or even a sherman, i reckon they could even do it while moving. http://www.filefront.com/14027675/Desktop.rarAccuracy Buff pl0x |
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 04:20:35 pm » |
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Price Decrease and Availability Increase Pl0x
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 04:33:01 pm » |
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poor croms, they are the ugly stepsister aren't they!
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 04:33:30 pm » |
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Had several vet 3 croms, they are tricky and canīt handle other tanks except shooting for rear hits as support. otherwise they are ok I guess as a infantry or vehicle killer. But yeah a price reduction would do good. Because they need 110% micro to avoid being killed by almost anything. They are like snipers, can damage but not take damage. Ps. Roadkills always works, but for that command tanks are cheaper  Ds. |
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 04:37:15 pm » |
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crom really can't get any cheaper.. its already 370 and 220 fuel.. cheapest non doctrine medium tank out of the bunch .. (sherman/p4)
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 04:40:58 pm » |
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Not even if I haggle?  Nah ok, but perhaps if they get an slightly improved received accuracy so they are harder to hit? I mean it is a really low tank that should be hard to hit, but they die almost too easily due to itīs poor armor. What do ya think? |
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 05:44:20 pm » |
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it's that moving acc. modifier that the crom has.
Attack move anyone?
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 05:51:12 pm » |
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crom really can't get any cheaper.. its already 370 and 220 fuel.. cheapest non doctrine medium tank out of the bunch .. (sherman/p4)
How is the stug categorized? because its cheaper than the cromwell |
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2009, 05:52:11 pm » |
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A Mobile Armored At-Gun IMO.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2009, 05:54:20 pm » |
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crom really can't get any cheaper.. its already 370 and 220 fuel.. cheapest non doctrine medium tank out of the bunch .. (sherman/p4)
How is the stug categorized? because its cheaper than the cromwell The StuG is a tank destroyer, and should not be compared to the Crom/Sherm/P4. |
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2009, 06:06:09 pm » |
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ok thanks for clarifying
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2009, 06:19:00 pm » |
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Does EIR use the same Cromwell stats from vCoH, if not why?
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2009, 06:21:24 pm » |
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Does EIR use the same Cromwell stats from vCoH, if not why?
It does. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2009, 06:02:46 am » |
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it's that moving acc. modifier that the crom has.
Attack move anyone?
Yet in this replay i make sure im sitting still for all the shots, even when a pak is shooting me, because normally 6 shots dont miss -.- |
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2009, 06:17:00 am » |
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there has to be 1 tank that cannot kill all other tanks in the game, unfortunately its the Cromwell.
Ive had cromwells get upwards of 18 inf kills and i've had a few reach vet2 and vet3 quite easily. Its a fantastic infantry support tank. If you use it like the IST except use flank speed to run over or run out of the battle you'll get quite a lot of success with it.
Cromwells are hopeless against tanks in penetration and i would never use one alone to attack another tank, maybe Circling a stug or stuh could do it but i seriously in a 1v1 the stuh will beat the cromwell due to penetration failure.
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2009, 06:56:36 am » |
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Im not talking about against tanks im talking inf, yet they still somehow manage to miss the tanks.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2009, 07:37:11 am » |
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cromwell vs all vehicles <= ostwind GOOD
cromwell vs PE panzerIV GOOD
cromwell vs shrek infantry BAD
cromwell vs panzer4 and above BAD
cromwell try to crush AT infantry very BAD
cromwell using flankspeed to get arround AT guns to circle stugs/stuhs to escape from ATguns and shreks GOOD
cromwell shooting while moving except the above mention flank reason BAD
cromwell standing still shooting non AT infantry GODLIKE
Vet2 Cromwell with commanderupgrade kiting any Infantry GOOD
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use cromwell to kill non AT infantry, use cromwell to support your AT guns
use cromwells to flank AT guns and marders
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2009, 07:53:41 am » |
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Your cromwell did ok, but you refuse to see it man. And the situation where you raged about it was a mortar sitting behind green cover with several objects in the way.
It's very unlikely that the round will go through everything. I knew it was going to hit the obstacles between them. Other than that it did ok, it's no tank killer(except for Ostwind probably).
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2009, 09:10:53 am » |
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Your cromwell did ok, but you refuse to see it man. And the situation where you raged about it was a mortar sitting behind green cover with several objects in the way.
It's very unlikely that the round will go through everything. I knew it was going to hit the obstacles between them. Other than that it did ok, it's no tank killer(except for Ostwind probably).
It did ok? 1 kill between 2 croms is ok? If thats ok it needs a 70% accuracy buff and ninja dodge like ac's |
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