Artillery Doctrine Report + Artillery Redone

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[LuAn]

Will some of those changes be made or not?

Right now RCA just doesnt have any real artillery superiority, a walking stuka is in my opinion better than a 25pounder (and maybe priest too)

(After being revealed a walking stuka can kill a 25pder with 2 salves, or maybe even 1 with t3 unlock and if it comes close enough)

Ps.: im sorry about the bad quality of this post, right now im just really tired, but i want to speak it out before i forget it.
Pps.: Creeping Barrage on Cd for increased cost?
PPPS.: Canister Shot on Cd sometime?
PPPS.: Almost Any Offmap = Certain Death for 25pder

[Baine]

25pdr survive V1s.

[Ununoctium]

25pdr survive V1s.

What a twist! 

[Aggamemnon]

Right now the cool downs are attached for some reason, if you use creeping barrage, the normal barrage gets hit with the 3-4 minute cool down of creeping as well.

[Akranadas]

Thats intentional. To stop people using creeping barrage, then normal barrage straight after.

[Aggamemnon]

Yeah, but it's too long for a normal barrage now...
These things go to the top of the hit-list after a barrage of any sort.

Suppose it gives a decent reason to get Victor Target... hmm.

[LuAn]

I somehow think its fine as it is right now.

This way you have to choose:
spot and use the normal barrage
or just blind fire the creeping barrage

But thats just my opinion

[Aggamemnon]

I always spot for both.

Well, it depends.
Does Veterancy work for both barrages?
Right now you are locking yourself into a single mode, let's face it, creeping is always going to win unless the other one is affected by vet.

Also, when the unit retreats the gun should self destruct, right now you leave a fully functional gun on field.

[LuAn]

Oke ive just checked the RGD for the Veterancy:

Vet1:
Received Damage * 0,75
Range + 10
Reload *0,9

Vet2:
Range +10
Creeping Barrage -30
Reload *0,8

Vet3:
Reload *0,8
Creeping Barrage -30



(The attrib\attrib\ebps\races\allies_commonwealth\_europeinruins\vehicles\25_pounder_artillery.rgd kinda confuses me, the Veterancy of the 25pder is always applied twice, once to hardpoint_01 and once to hardpoint_02,
whereas
hardpoint_01 is weapon\allies_cw\ballistic_weapon\howitzer\cw_25_pounder_howitzer.lua
hardpoint_02 is weapon\allies_cw\ballistic_weapon\howitzer\cw_25_pounder_howitzer_overwatch.lua
hardpoint_03 is weapon\allies_cw\ballistic_weapon\howitzer\cw_25_pounder_howitzer_super_charge.lua
hardpoint_04 is weapon\allies_cw\ballistic_weapon\howitzer\cw_25_pounder_howitzer_creeping_barrage.lua

Now im not quite sure on how this all comes together,
ive checked the rgd and the attrib\attrib\abilities\_europeinruins\cw\creeping_barrage_25_pounder.rgd says
that it uses hardpoint_04 for its creeping ,
so to me it looks like that the Veterancy bonuses
only applies to the normal Barrage Ability attrib\attrib\abilities\_europeinruins\cw\commonwealth_25pounder_barrage_ability.rgd, which uses hardpoint_01.

That means that creeping barrage isnt affected by Veterancy (which is fine imo),
but a supercharged 25pder also isnt affected by veterancy!

on the other hand im a complete rgd/corsix freshman so i might be completly wrong, but only salan knows for sure.

[Aggamemnon]

I'm putting my creeping barrage on fresh guns anyway, and anything vetted is without (so I get use form the vet).