[PE/British/American/Wehrmacht] Smoke shells as a standard Advantage

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[NightRain]

Smoke, one of the most unused ability in the mod, some uses most ignores in short.

This suggestion's idea is to make the Smoke not only a Newbie advantage but as a standard advantage that can be bought with SP. Why? Not only would this help factions with very little smoke options (PE/British) but as well serve as a PP/SP sink for full companies that are swimming in PPs and doesn't use it for anything else but Veterancy.

I wouldn't want to go into details on the smoke thing, everyone knows what factions could use it as a advantage right?

Americans have Smoke nades and mortar smoke

Wehrmacht Mortar smoke

British, CCT Creeping smoke barrage, mortar smoke(?) and smoke nades

PE nothing

[AmPM]

I wanted to see the 7.5cm Sdkfz 251 go in as a light assault gun/smoke deploying unit with 4 man transport.

Then it could roll up, hit the HMG with the main gun or fire a smoke round to cover the assault unit inside.

[Smokaz]

Brought up by me a million times.

Shot down for bad reasons

I hope it makes it in

[Groundfire]

Tbh, all tank smoke should be just added default, there's no use in buying it.

[NightRain]

Tbh, all tank smoke should be just added default, there's no use in buying it.

For all tanks? I would love to see P4s pop out a smoke shell

[Unkn0wn]

The SP system is being removed, so this is pretty moot.

[Spartan_Marine88]

For all tanks? I would love to see P4s pop out a smoke shell

hell every tank had smoke shells on it in ww2, i never understood why the m4 was the only one to get it.

[Malgoroth]

I like smoke how it is. An overabundance of it would only be irritating and make support weapons nearly useless. Flamer spam would be the norm I think.

You guys don't think having sherman style smoke on every tank would make tanks to OP?

[Smokaz]

People use tank smoke? thats news.

I think what he meant was for PE to get smoke barrage on his mortar, which is entirely fair for him to demand and something the coders should put in.

[bbsmith]

For all tanks? I would love to see P4s pop out a smoke shell

Never played Blitzkrieg?

[TheIcelandicManiac]

i love using my Assault infantry with flamers but making them the norm would make my tactic obsolete so i do hope that smoke would NOT be made a norm.


in that i mean that everyone would have an tactic to get rid of flame users.

[Smokaz]

The thing is that there are no flame squad infantry that doubles as AT. And, tanks with flamers do not benefit all that much from smoke from my observations, partially caused by scatter.

[Malgoroth]

People use tank smoke? thats news.

I think what he meant was for PE to get smoke barrage on his mortar, which is entirely fair for him to demand and something the coders should put in.

They sure do.

I wasnt aware PE mortar HT didnt have smoke... In that case yeah. Give em some damn smoke.

[Unkn0wn]

I guess we could consider giving the mortar HT a smoke barrage. PE don't have any real means of Smoke, other than the FJ riflenades. It used to be a SE doctrine ability at one point I think.

[MultiDoc]

I wasnt aware PE mortar HT didnt have smoke... In that case yeah. Give em some damn smoke.

Yes, the mortar HT doesn't have smoke ability