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Two Offline
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« on: July 11, 2009, 05:29:29 am »

Needs accuracy buff, it never hits anything and rarely penetrates tanks so that makes it useless at everything.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 05:31:16 am »

yea its accuracy is pretty pathetic.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 05:34:51 am »

agree.
only FFs usable.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 05:35:42 am »

From experience, if the tank is sitting still, it can *Reasonably* snipe single infantry per shot.

Apart from that, about all it's useful for is the occasional support team clearing via method of lolwut flankspeed rush past thier AT and hope the 1/4 of health you have left is enough to kill that mortar crew so your infantry can keep working.

I dont even bother using it against anything bigger than a HT vehicle wise. Even then the bloody thing has a habit of missing AC's too much to effectively hunt them.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 05:36:15 am »

Only on the move, if you stop to shoot it will hit pretty well. The penetration on the other hand... same for churchill though.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 05:40:37 am »

Your right, accuracy on the still is alright Baine... But have you ever tried to actively hunt down an AC with a Cromwell?

Having to stop the moment you think you can pull off a shot just lets them zoom away. At most you get one or two hitting shots... Which usually isnt enough to kill them. It's an old fingers crossed for engine damage.

Penetration just makes me facepalm. I still cringe when two of my Cromwell's engage a single PIV w/Skirts.

Isnt the Cromwell supposed to be the Brit mainline tank? The "Supposed" equal to the PIV and the Sherman in terms of usage?
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 05:58:08 am »

two's on a hot streak tonight lol

most british tanks have a higher moving accuracy penalty than the other factions
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 06:01:03 am »

Does anything counter that? like higher acc standing still?

The flank speed is great and really does much in vcoh but here...well and with that moving acc its ''bah''
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2009, 06:41:00 am »

with CCTs and flank speed might as well go nuts on them.  Cromwells are quite useless, maybe a penetration buff would be a starter or even recieved penetration.  It takes pretty much maximum damage from everything lol.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 06:54:20 am »

two's on a hot streak tonight lol

most british tanks have a higher moving accuracy penalty than the other factions

Yet even when standing still they suck.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 07:27:39 am »

Gun has the same still accuracy as a 75mm Sherman, shoots faster.

It's fine if you're using it in long range sniping attacks, but it doesn't brawl as well as the Sherman, which is interesting because it's the original overdrive tank.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2009, 07:51:25 am »

Only on the move, if you stop to shoot it will hit pretty well. The penetration on the other hand... same for churchill though.

The only reason some cromwells hit well sittin still is probably due to Desert Rats, he's specifying about none doctrinal buffs towards cromwells
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 08:16:13 am »

Only on the move, if you stop to shoot it will hit pretty well. The penetration on the other hand... same for churchill though.

The only reason some cromwells hit well sittin still is probably due to Desert Rats, he's specifying about none doctrinal buffs towards cromwells

I was talking about non doctrinal cromwells. I agree though, a accuracy buff could bring it up to par with the P4, same for penetration.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2009, 08:36:59 am »

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The only reason some cromwells hit well sittin still is probably due to Desert Rats, he's specifying about none doctrinal buffs towards cromwells

Cromwell has only a ten percent less chance to hit wehrmacht infantry than a Sherman, and no less chance to hit panzergrenadiers of any variety.
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2009, 08:47:54 am »

Mal why are you so hellbent on creating a fuss about allied tanks. We want a fair balanced game yet i've never seen you on an allied account, its all well and good saying whats good on papaer and referring to stats, but until you've played with the units you'll see what it's really like.
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2009, 08:54:43 am »

I just played a game as brits ten minutes ago.
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2009, 08:59:12 am »

Do you run cromwells and stuarts in that company? Or are you a bang bus clown car fan. Cos im fairly confident in which one you have.
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2009, 09:01:28 am »

Cromwells should definitely also be used in a RE company, because of desert rats.
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2009, 10:35:50 am »

Two's on a hot streak tonight!

Got that right!  But I think he's got a point with this one, my experiences with Cromwell tanks have been god awful (I went from having about 4 of the suckers in my company to having one).
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2009, 12:08:27 pm »

I like my Cromwell's as they are, I'd rather save the fuel and have a slightly less good anti-infantry ability while moving.
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