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Author Topic: Why units "exept snipers" should be stationary when cloaked  (Read 5832 times)
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bristiler Offline
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« on: July 17, 2009, 02:58:54 pm »

http://www.filefront.com/14064055/Stormies.rar


tell me if it doesnt work. never posted a replay before.

you can skip the less than skilled play leading up to maysauze dropping. you will then see me suicide rush his stuff. followed by me killing all but 1 stormie. then trying to hunt him down for the next ten minutes. yes he had infantry to cap me out. no he shouldnt be able to walk around with immunity.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2009, 03:16:22 pm »

I hate storms and coupled with precision strike, it can be real annoying. They can just sit storms there with schrecks and just watch you and mortar you to death and then if you try to counter mortar, just drop a precision on it and take the whole thing out, crew and gun (arty rarely does that cuz of inaccuracy, if it hits) or they can take out your at gun and drive in their p4's and tigers while you have no at and if you try and counter with your own tanks or whateevr (if u so dare) just pop u in the ass with the cloaked storms.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 03:20:41 pm »

Wait, Storms are scary?

I find sniper much more annoying.

And yes I play allies, yes it is CW, so yes I have less spotting for cloaking than you do. Also my tanks cost more.
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DasNoob Offline
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 03:32:51 pm »

I want my lend-lease Jeep.
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LuAn Offline
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2009, 03:51:29 pm »

http://www.mediafire.com/?tnyjehmdjzc

Is this really the way wehrs supposed to be played?

Just looking at their starting call ins makes me sad Sad
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2009, 04:09:34 pm »

i played against a kt start today....was interesting. It was KT + assault grens and volks and g43's
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Sl4sh Offline
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2009, 04:39:37 pm »

Ah yes, the KT start.  A beast, but got whittled down by our AT guns.

btw im Xill
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dravidian Offline
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 04:48:49 pm »

the problem is that stormies can be accesed through reinforcements, if they were blitzkrieg only and couldn't be purchased through reinforcements they would be fine
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2009, 04:54:39 pm »

the problem is that AB/Mandos/Rangers can be accesed through reinforcements, if they were AB/Mando/Infantry only and couldn't be purchased through reinforcements they would be fine

See wut I did.

Its not the units that are broken, its the reinforcements.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2009, 04:56:48 pm »

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And yes I play allies, yes it is CW, so yes I have less spotting for cloaking than you do. Also my tanks cost more.

Shall we compare the costs of equivilent CW and US tanks?
Last I checked, the cromwell cost significantly less than a sherman did... Same for a churchil.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2009, 06:51:44 pm »

i watched the replay. seriously, this has nothing to do with storms being op or not. a single inf unit or even a jeep would've won you the game. you didn't have any, and you lost. contrary to your belief this is not an annihiltion game. at least most of the time it isn't. there's no point whining about the cloaking ability. neither do i get the point of you trying to talk them into retreating their last unit. if you realized you could hardly kill them nor cap why didn't you retreat your half dead m4 and your m10 instead. that would've been less frustrating for either side. otherwise it's rather poor sportsmanship. on the other hand running away from tanks with your last unit and trying to outcap the opposing team/player is not. not even if that unit can cloak. and btw, a sniper could've done the exact same thing the stormies did. so maybe you should rename this thread "why you shouldn't run out of infantry in late game".  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2009, 08:02:42 pm »

Played a 3v3 the other day, and it came down to a single commando squad, and 2 AC's trying to sniff them out, they holed up in a building, and it got to the last 10 seconds, and we were all sitting there willing the fuckers to live...

they did, we won!
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2009, 08:06:56 pm »

LOL nice!

Gotta love the close endings!
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Freek Offline
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2009, 09:34:26 pm »

Yeah, had a 2v2 a loong time ago.  We ran out of everything except a bunch of rifle squads, while our enemies had a tiger and pIV.

So, after a little...
BANZAI
A THOUSAND YEARS FOR THE EMPEROR
BANZAI

We capped around the tanks, taking massive casualties, but won the game XD
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2009, 11:38:33 pm »

I remember a 2v2 on RTC i had where i was down to two one-man rifle squads. one of em ended up gettin gibbed by the tiger, but the other one ran around a house, inside the house, to avoid being shot. In the end, it worked, and i have never had a game against that certain person again, his wishes Cheesy
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2009, 11:44:27 pm »

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And yes I play allies, yes it is CW, so yes I have less spotting for cloaking than you do. Also my tanks cost more.

Shall we compare the costs of equivilent CW and US tanks?
Last I checked, the cromwell cost significantly less than a sherman did... Same for a churchil.


Sherman - 395 MP, 250 F, 12 pop

Churchill MK VI - 410 MP, 260 F, 10 pop

The Cromwell is completely different from these two, being only useful for stationary armor engagements.

We faced off against a ton of Stormies today, mostly double schreks. So easy to remove. Suppression + arty or run over.
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2009, 12:19:34 am »

Back on topic....

I really don't see anything wrong with Mark's Storm win really. It your fault for not stocking up enough Infantry (or a Jeep) to be able to finish the game as your victory (Although I will admit that your allies drop was unfortunate). As said by thaelmann, it could of been easily done with a sniper as well.
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2009, 04:12:54 am »

I once won a game with the enemy still having 2 marders and 4 hetzers on with just 1 2 man bren squad and a 3 man sapper squad.

It was soooo lol.
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