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[BoDyBaG2224TLS]

He guys, I'm gonna start attempting to make some maps here and I would like some ideas on what the community would like. I am very new at this so I won't have any immediate pics or something, but I am up for any ideas. My main idea that I had was a road that goes through the upper left side of the map and have a small town there, then on the right a lake area with perhaps a small fishing village, and then that would leave the middle for a large farming center. I was considering makeing it look like battles had been fought there before with some craters, and perhaps a farming area that has been completely destroyed.

So any ideas for what the community would like to see would be nice, and then I'll see what I can do. Spring break is coming up for me and I won't be doing too much over the break, so I can get some good progress done soon.

HOWEVER......My main computer died (well it did, and now the CPU works but my 24inch HD Widescreen monitor is now FUBAR) so perhaps not immediately but soon.

[Thtb-Ally]

Deffinatly OCP & a bridge.

[BoDyBaG2224TLS]

What sort of objectives should I go for?
-Control the city?
-Control the bridge?
-Control the farming area?

[Thtb-Ally]

OCP (Objective Controlled Popcap)

There should be only 3 or 5 objectives per map (not including spawn objectives).  Map makers can vary this, but realise any extra objectives you place have to be defended.  This makes it very difficult for players to defend all of their areas and if you make it too difficult the map is more ideally played with one big blob moving quickly from objective to objective overwhelming defenses. 

KEY POINT: The more objectives you have the less defense you will be able to place at each.

Important note: To make MCP LESS harsh add more sectors at player spawns.

Remember: because in OCP there is no supply line you can drop airborne ANYWHERE and take an objective.  It is NOT feasible to expect players to defend 12 objectives.  That would mean they would need 12 hmgs to do so and even then they could easily be taken by airborne or a small assault squad.

There should always be an odd number of objectives
The objectives should be spread out evenly from the center line of the map.
The objectives should be around more defensive and key locations.
The objectives size should be limited to the defensive/key location.
The objectives should be spread out to encourage map use.
Multiple objectives can be used if they are made close enough to each other to make defense of both of them at the same time easier.
You can make certain sectors more 'primary' objectives by making the defensive area a dual ring sector or 2-3 sectors together.

To enable OCP in your map you need to create a text file called [yourmapname].scar.  Note do NOT put this in the [yourmapname]_id.scar file.  In the scar file paste the following code and then you're done!

Code:

function WinConditionOverride()
     EIR_SupplyLines = 0
end

What size you want to do? We have a good load of city with a bit land around.  ACtually most are build up like that. I for one woud prefer 2 citys for a chance 1 near each spawn, like i did it in my map, with a battlefield inbetween it. In that battlefield you can place your objectivs as they come (crashed plane, curch-ruin & so on...

[Lolto]

Starting off with a small rural town as one of your first maps is probably the best idea, Is this going to be your first map? If so; don't expect many people to play it, it's a long learning experience and requires much patience.  With that said, start with a rural town, fields, hedgerows, etc.  Play around with it, you should refer to this thread:

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php/topic,4026.0.html

I made a long post detailing out some things to help out new mappers.

Edit: Also, OCP might be a bit much if you're new to mapping, if it is your first map I suggest going with a normal sector setup and not the OCP system.

[BoDyBaG2224TLS]

Its my first map, but I've tinkered in the World Builder a lot. I can get complicated things done, but probably longer then a "vet" would take.

[Bonte]

what im thinking that would be a good idea for a map is a capital defence map with building based objectives....(territories are buildings) with abilities given to the player when he controls certain sectors for so long.

[DerangedGerman]

Texas does that on several maps. It would be best to ask him about it.

[BoDyBaG2224TLS]

Yay! I'm loving all of these responses. There is one thing I'm unsure of however

First one is simple: 2v2, or 3v3? Next post with 2v2 or 3v3 will decide that.

The other question is how large should the map be?

[DerangedGerman]

2v2. They are played MUCH more than 3v3s, and will be easier to test on. As for size, pick your own. On Dawn, I've had people complain that it's too small for a 3v3. I don't care. Most people are fine with it, and that's how I made it. I'm not going to stamp it and start over because some people don't like it.

[BoDyBaG2224TLS]

So if I made the playable area like 512 that would be good?

[DerangedGerman]

You decide. 512 is a pretty decent size. What you need to do is create a map that is, say, 512 x 512, and then spawn a building in it to compare size. If the level appears too big compared to the building, downsize it, if it is too small, make it larger.

[Lolto]

So if I made the playable area like 512 that would be good?

I'm sure you've played some of the stock maps, here is a link that tells you the specific details of a stock maps dimensions.

http://wiki.relicrank.com/index.php?title=Map_Size