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Author Topic: Band of Brothers, entertaining but unrealistic..  (Read 14503 times)
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« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2010, 09:29:37 pm »

Key word: "seemed". Germany always underestimated British strength. Britain always overestimated German strength. The fact remains that, even in the worst of the offensive, the RAF was outattritioning, outflying, and outproducing the Luftwaffe. Britain was suffering, but Germany was suffering even more. Even discounting the fact that the RAF could simply relocate to North Britain, untouchable by Me-109s, if it needed to, Germany had no chance of establishing air supremacy, especially not in time for Sealion.

The website certainly mentions the number of hit airfields. But, even in the worst of the bombing, only 2 airfields were closed for more than a few hours by enemy action. That's terrible.

Also simulations are just computers and never take into account of that 1 man, the one who storms up against all odds and does something so mind blowing no one can believe it.

I can't tell if you're trolling or not. Please offer evidence that Sealion would have worked with river barges, air parity, 10-day unloading times, and overwhelming naval inferiority.
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« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2010, 09:51:27 pm »

Hmm, the Romans got to Britain on small wooden vessels designed for the Mediterranean
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« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2010, 10:09:29 pm »

Hmm, the Romans got to Britain on small wooden vessels designed for the Mediterranean

William the Conquer did pretty much the same thing too. However, these two examples are flawed as they didn't have to contend with a Navy or an Airforce actively opposing them.
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« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2010, 10:57:34 pm »


http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA421637&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf

Its a long read, but a good one. The numbers in there do not lie. To sum it up they say, that Germany could have won, but do to failures to pursue  objectives long and hard enough they let the British gain back the upper hand.

With a direct quote from the conclusion

"Three days after he ranted to an audience of thousands “I am coming!  I am coming!” Hitler
concentrated his air offensive on the city of London, saving the Royal Air Force from mortal at-
trition and undermining German air strategy (8, 132)"
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« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2010, 12:09:09 am »

To play as a moron in this fight I'll say one thing.

UK was on its knee when RAF was pinned down on their airfields with no rest and 24/7 services since German HE-111 bombers bombed their bases while Wolf packs lurked around UK's shores. They had hard time getting supplies as most of them were sunk by Torpedoes. If this fight had kept going on UK would have starved to death economically and the population would have suffered hunger. This might've forced UK to surrender under German bombardment. Remember that Germany had number and equipment superiority during the early stages of battles. UK was pretty much pinned to their own island. Then Hitler started to bomb London and left the airfields alone allowing rest and repairs that were much needed and- well RAF recovered quickly and started to take over the skies.
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« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2010, 12:17:20 am »

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« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2010, 05:13:48 am »

Wow this topic was about BoB and you changed it into a history leasson XD
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« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2010, 05:15:09 am »

Wow this topic was about BoB and you changed it into a history leasson XD

I know right Grin
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« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2010, 11:39:38 am »

Wow this topic was about BoB and you changed it into a history leasson XD

It was about a claim that a historical show is inaccurate, it started as a (bad/wrong) history lesson.
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