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Poppi Offline
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« on: July 28, 2011, 12:57:48 am »

Okay when the Jackson first came out as a reward unit i was amazed by the fire power and how cheap it was plus easy vet. PLus i liked it on my infantry. Finally a strong AT weapon on wheels to stop heavy armor from the front.

I think it had the firepower of a pershing HVAP.

I would agree to a increase in price, or small dip in HP, and/or more xp to vet. For balance sake

But to lose the main attraction of it... the pershing HVAP cannon?
That was the main point of the tank. Weak tank with high pen and damage

Now its a m10 firepower w/ HVAP. So whats the point of having this reward unit now? It no longer has the firepower to scare off the heavy armor w/ attacks to the front armor.

May as well just stick to m10. m10 is faster, cheaper, and does a better job of surrounding the unit, and its not a reward unit.

To me its pretty much complete shit. I think even if it was a regular unit i would stick to m10s since they have the speed needed to penetrate from the back.
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2011, 12:59:05 am »

Ummm...the nerf wasn't to its AT ability, so much as it no longer roflpwns infantry.
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Poppi Offline
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2011, 01:01:32 am »

I noticed a huge drop in AT capability when i used it. Sad
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2011, 03:03:58 am »

What happened is it lost 100 of it's base HP on top of getting roflpwned in it's anti-inf capability (2-4 times less acc, depending on whether the inf is moving).

Just kind of made the unit shit and not worth the 280 FU. I mean, a Hellcat is 185 FU, and will do just about as much damage to tanks, used well, while being far more potent vs infantry.
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 03:15:08 am »

hellcat penetrates KT from front as jackson does?
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 03:18:43 am »

Nope, but it penetrates it from behind. A place you will never get with a jackson because they are limited and as such you can not really risk losing them. Oh, and you'll actually be able to avoid shots with the M18, unlike with the jackson.
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2011, 03:26:45 am »

that's why I dont use reward units,even though I have bunch of reward points,they are not expendable,thus,cant use their full potential  Roll Eyes
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2011, 03:27:56 am »

Use panzer 2s, man.

Their full potential is reached via hit and run tactics anyway (You're not going to charge down sticky squads, lol).
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2011, 03:59:55 am »

did,lost 1, with jagdtiger in game to ensure our win  Grin
reward units in game with noobish teamate easily results in dead reward units  Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2011, 10:08:18 am »

you don't have a clue what you're talking about poppi. Read the RGDs first before you make a balance topic.

The m36 became actually better vs tanks since the m10 target tables has damage buffs vs tanks.
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MajorBookworm Offline
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2011, 08:47:21 pm »

One question why does the jackson have a Sherman chassis, didnt have a M10 one instead
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2011, 10:31:54 pm »

The M36 used a Sherman chassis
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2011, 06:51:55 am »

The M36B2 'Slugger' was an interim solution to the problem of combating heavy german armor, and was only used for a couple of months surrounding the direct normandy landings. After ~2 months after the landings, the M36B1 Jackson, using the M10 chassis, more or less replaced it. The Jackson was the production run, the Slugger was the 'test' that used the sherman chassis for lack of a better one in great numbers at the time.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2011, 06:43:29 am »

they were both made.

m10 chassis was more widely used yes, and it looks better yes,

but the available coh model for it has misfire bug.
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