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Author Topic: Anti anti-airborne co's. Do they work?  (Read 6406 times)
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Riflemenareus Offline
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« on: June 08, 2008, 09:27:24 am »

i hear a lot about these types of company, i assumed they wouldnt work, but people kept on trying to counter airborne with highly specific co's....despite my misgivings, i assumed this level of specilisation would back fire....never the less i thought i would give it a try.

the results, are intresting.

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Thirteen Offline
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2008, 09:30:36 am »

Who are you and how do you have 5 vet 3 ostwinds?
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Novox Offline
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2008, 09:35:17 am »

i hear a lot about these types of company, i assumed they wouldnt work, but people kept on trying to counter airborne with highly specific co's....despite my misgivings, i assumed this level of specilisation would back fire....never the less i thought i would give it a try.

the results, are intresting.

very nice Wink but i figured out that having 10 flamers and mp40's with 'fausts work just as well xD
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Riflemenareus Offline
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2008, 09:35:54 am »

McPage ( the nice guy) on vent, my axis account is Puddln. and how do i get 5 vet 3 ostwinds? my owning airborne face, thats how.
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They Call Me SpitFire Offline
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2008, 10:24:00 am »

Nice I think I'll add an ostwind to my force.
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Thirteen Offline
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2008, 10:26:38 am »

Oh it's Louis. Trying to trick me with your forum name are you?
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UnLimiTeD Offline
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2008, 10:28:50 am »

Imo Pumas are far better against Airborne, but harder to vet up.
And: Novox :  10 Flamers cost you 750 munition for a force that will die to Raid Assault.
If you use Pumas as a backup for 2 flamers, that will work, but flamers with mp40s is not really an option imo.
@Puddin; seems everyone took airborne this war, so AA strategies work well.
Nice.
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BradAnderson Offline
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2008, 10:37:50 am »

Imo Pumas are far better against Airborne, but harder to vet up.
And: Novox :  10 Flamers cost you 750 munition for a force that will die to Raid Assault.
If you use Pumas as a backup for 2 flamers, that will work, but flamers with mp40s is not really an option imo.
@Puddin; seems everyone took airborne this war, so AA strategies work well.
Nice.
not me.
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They Call Me SpitFire Offline
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2008, 10:47:31 am »

Pumas better than Airbourne than an Ostwind
or the mp40s&flamers cause an ostwind pwns airbourne really quick.
Imo Pumas are far better against Airborne, but harder to vet up.
And: Novox :  10 Flamers cost you 750 munition for a force that will die to Raid Assault.
If you use Pumas as a backup for 2 flamers, that will work, but flamers with mp40s is not really an option imo.
@Puddin; seems everyone took airborne this war, so AA strategies work well.
Nice.
not me.
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Novox Offline
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2008, 10:52:13 am »

Imo Pumas are far better against Airborne, but harder to vet up.
And: Novox :  10 Flamers cost you 750 munition for a force that will die to Raid Assault.
If you use Pumas as a backup for 2 flamers, that will work, but flamers with mp40s is not really an option imo.
@Puddin; seems everyone took airborne this war, so AA strategies work well.
Nice.

Well obviously you dont field them all at once. lmao. You field them in pairs of 3-4. sometimes grouped with a shreky, or dual mp40s with fausts. You may think its not great, but unless 4 squads of airborne drop on them all at once, (even then, it will take out 3/4ths) it will come out victorious. Especially with allies coming in to support with grens or volks or w/e as meatshields for the first 5 seconds before focus fire comes.
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[AB]RikiRude Offline
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2008, 01:38:19 pm »

I have to agree that pumas are better then ostwinds, depending on what you have supporting the ostwinds. though i would send out a pair of pumas rather then just one at a time. I know when I'm AB pumas are harder to hit it seems.
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They Call Me SpitFire Offline
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2008, 01:58:33 pm »

I guess I'll keep that in mind.  Undecided
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Sach Offline
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2008, 03:06:21 pm »

Assuming you can get LoS Ostwinds are better since they have the range advantage. Pumas are more cost effective once they hit vet 2 though.
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UnLimiTeD Offline
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2008, 04:13:34 pm »

Pumas are hard to kill, as RR are such a great AT because if they get a miss by game mechanic they will still hit due to physics.
But The Puma has such a small hitbox that it will mostly miss.
So a RR hits a puma just aswell as a zook or schreck, while doing lower damage/being more expensive.
Also, when Airborne drop on Pumas/Ostwinds, each shot of them kills one guy, but Pumas fire faster.
+They are more mobile, when you see the green smoke, you will be able to get one there from a screen away just in time, Ostwinds may be too slow.
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@ Novox:  You don't drop onto them, you drop some screens away, rush up and throw nades in the way so flamers can't come close.
If you have a Puma, a sniper, or an HMG behind, that won't work, so always take one of these with you.
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[AB]RikiRude Offline
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2008, 04:45:45 pm »

what do pumas get at vet 2? vet 2 ostwinds never seem to do me anymore good then vet 0 ostwinds.
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Sach Offline
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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2008, 05:00:59 pm »

IMO the best counter to airbourne is to not get shot at. Ostwinds can stay out of range of the RRs and still kill them where as Pumas have to be in range to shoot them. There fore i think ostwinds are far superior. However, I'm pretty sure pumas get 20% range increase at vet 2, i could be wrng though.
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2008, 05:32:45 pm »

Pumas can escape when they have been shot though. plus 2 pumas is cheaper, and only 4 more pop cap then an ostwind. it may just come down to preference, and how much pop cap you have open, and of course how many dropped that have RRs.
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Sach Offline
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2008, 06:54:36 pm »

You're right, if you don't use LoS to your advanatge pumas are the best to get shot with but if you intend to not get shot ostwinds are the better choice.
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Novox Offline
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2008, 07:30:39 pm »

IMO the best counter to airbourne is to not get shot at. Ostwinds can stay out of range of the RRs and still kill them where as Pumas have to be in range to shoot them. There fore i think ostwinds are far superior. However, I'm pretty sure pumas get 20% range increase at vet 2, i could be wrng though.

Yes they do get 20% range. just wanted to verify it. just got one today. lmao

Anyone know what u get at Vet 3 Smiley?
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Riflemenareus Offline
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2008, 09:54:28 pm »

ill try and get a vet 3 puma army next then Tongue
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