Churchill MKIV

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[Malevolence]

You've never had a churchill with damaged engine.

[AmPM]

Aloha....where to start...

The ATHT is amazing, its a long ranged sticky of doom. Combined with PE Schreks in an IHT to chase and its a kill.

Also, it can beat an unskirted M8.

Second, the MKIV cannot kill enemy tanks, since it cannot pursue them. So that purpose fails. I can't hit infantry either. So thats a double fail.

It has heavy crush, but since you never need to break defenses anymore, that fails.

It really does need a purpose in its life, other than taking hits than an AVRE can do just as well, for less pop, and provide a useful Anti-building, support, infantry weapon.

Give it the Cromwell gun.

[CafeMilani]

Aloha....where to start...

The ATHT is amazing, its a long ranged sticky of doom. Combined with PE Schreks in an IHT to chase and its a kill.

Also, it can beat an unskirted M8.

Second, the MKIV cannot kill enemy tanks, since it cannot pursue them. So that purpose fails. I can't hit infantry either. So thats a double fail.

It has heavy crush, but since you never need to break defenses anymore, that fails.

It really does need a purpose in its life, other than taking hits than an AVRE can do just as well, for less pop, and provide a useful Anti-building, support, infantry weapon.

Give it the Cromwell gun.

chruch vs p4

the church cant follow the p4 to kill it but the p4 cant kill the p4-->axis need more AT to kill it (bullshit pak e.g.)
u say it doesnt hit infantry..ofc it does, not every tank can shoot infantry while moving!
just hold on, shoot, go on
fact is that its a shock tank because u cant kill it fast (massive front armor)

i agree it could be more accurate against inf but nothing else...

church(crocs) or AVREs are more scaryfiing than a pershing for me

[Akranadas]

Perhaps you need to learn to not rely on singular units to do all the work for you. Werhmacht are all about combine units, You just don't field pak guns, or shrecks; you field both.

The Churchill is a bullet magnet; it's sole role it to draw fire from the enemy while infantry/other tanks do the killing.

[Malevolence]

Then it shouldn't have a gun at all. 600 manpower and 400 fuel for an unarmed crush machine with no abilities that work, sounds like a fair price.

[AmPM]

The problem being Ak, is that the AVRE does the same job of drawing fire, can eliminate the hardpoint, and uses less pop.

Hell, a Bergetiger could do that job of taking shots just as well.

And this is vs human players, the Churchills gun sucks, making it low on the target priority list after all other units (especially since it has so much HP). Things with high HP and low damage output should always be the last target for anyone.

[BigDick]

ATHT is maybe a hardcounter for jeeps but for nothing else^^
since  they changed treatbrakers its workless against tanks

+1

treadbreaker is nothing more than a 95mun sticky on a expensive fragile vehicle

leave the church as it is. its heavy, nice against medium tanks and scares the enemy insanely

actually it sucks against armor
it does descent against light vehicles and it is ok against infantry
but it can take much punish and can work as meatshild for tank assaults
maybe lower its pop a bit and fuel costs to field other tanks supporting the churchil