Wehrmacht On Map Artillery

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[Unkn0wn]

I really don't think Wehrmacht needs more artillery.

[Guderian]

I withdraw all my previous statements and agree with unknown.

[Tymathee]

I really don't think Wehrmacht needs more artillery.

+1

[Bubz]

I really don't think Wehrmacht needs more artillery.

+2

[EliteGren]

There is still the idea to remove nebel or stuka from def or make it doctrinal only as a tier 2 unlock, nebel could be Terror only etc.

I agree that if you just add it that it's too much.

Feels like a waste of potential when its not in.

[NightRain]

There is still the idea to remove nebel or stuka from def or make it doctrinal only as a tier 2 unlock, nebel could be Terror only etc.

I agree that if you just add it that it's too much.

Feels like a waste of potential when its not in.

I'd never abandon my Nebel nor Stuka. Def is more arty based than any other Axis doctorine imo.

[Guderian]

I thought that was the point?

[SaintPauli]

I really don't think Wehrmacht needs more artillery.

How is this giving the axis more arty? We are proposing that each doctrine gets THEIR OWN UNIQUE ARTY (we are removing the non doctrinal arty from axis. This could actually be considered a nerf…)

The concept of each doctrine getting the own unique artillery piece could and should be applied to the rest of the fractions:

Blitz: Stuka
Terror: Nebelwerfer
Defensive: Axis howitzer from ToV campaign

Tank Hunters: Hotchkiss
Scorched Earth: Hummel
Luftwaffe: Air dropped mortars (+ they have off maps)

Armor: Calliope
Infantry: Howitzers
Airborne: Air dropped mortars (+ they have off maps)

Artillery: Priest 
Engineers: 25 pounders
Commandoes: Glider dropped mortars (+ they have off maps)

[Unkn0wn]

So only Wehrmacht really wins again because they get off-maps + on map artillery for every doctrine?

[SaintPauli]

So only Wehrmacht really wins again because they get off-maps + on map artillery for every doctrine?

FFS why are you trying to turn this around to a buff wehr (axis) argument?

Blitz: Stuka instead of nebel = worse
Defense: Howitzer instead of nebel and stuka = different

Luftwaffe: No Hotchkiss = worse
Scorched Earth: No Hotchkiss = worse

Engineers: 25 pounder = buff

P.S. And don’t give me any bullshit about the off maps. You know I want to see all off maps gone (except things involving planes = all the fractions that don’t have on maps in my suggestion).   

[Baine]

So only Wehrmacht really wins again because they get off-maps + on map artillery for every doctrine?

How is that a win for Wehrmacht when Nebel/STuka/Arty become doctrinal units. I like the concept and thought it would be a welcomed change as i see alot allies whining about how nebel is nondoctrinal and for every axis available.

[Killer344]

Nebel being non-doctrinal is ok, it should use a bit more pop cap, that's all.