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[acker]

Wouldn't it be better if we were allowed to chose what we wanted for reforcements, Rather then being confined to set reforcement packages.

That would be nice. Just allow players to choose 3 nondoctrinal units, and they get them for 1/2 the regular availability.

[scrapking]

Could always move away from factional reinforcements (i.e. not explicitly British, U.S., Wehr and PE), and instead make them role specific - i.e. "AT Reinforcement", "Infantry Reinforcement", "Armor Reinforcement", "Support Reinforcement".  Along those lines.

Then, for example, AT Reinforcement package could include PAK, ATHT, Marder... or 57ATG, M10, Bren MMG carrier.  

Infantry Reinforcement package could be  Rifle Squad, Tommy Squad, Lieut., Capt.  or Grenadier, Assault PzGren, Officer, Muni HT

Armor could be  Sherman, Churchill mkVI, Staghound, bren HT   or  PIV, PIV IST, Ostwind, IHT

Support could be .30 HMG, mortar, sniper,  Tommy Scouts  or  MG42, mortar, sniper, mortarHT


The exact units aren't important - just the notion that it might be more flexible if it were role specific instead of faction.

[salan]

CCT needs to be back in rotation

probably never happen

[Smokaz]

mamma mia calzone tagliatelle,

have they already decided to remove elite inf reinforcements completely

and cct shermans are still going strong, the difference is that it is a british only thing

[Jazlizard]

I actually like Cryingwolfs suggestion, you could even take it further to make it mimic the doctrine trees to make reinforcements more of a tiered thing then an all in one package.

Think about it, in the first tier you could chose from different sorts of basic infantry (since elite infantry seem to be taken out of the equation).

Tier 2 could be support weapon choices, T3 light vehicles and T4 tanks. Availability would obviously be tweaked since they are reinforcements, but this would allow for more 'a la carte' system that should make everyone happy and create more variety.

An example would be.

T1 Tommies
T2 Sniper
T3 Bren Carrier
T4 Sherman

[Tymathee]

This could be interesting, going to have to think about this for a bit. Too bad emplacements dont work for americans and ami infantry dont get lt and captain buffs (i think, not really sure how to test it)

[salan]

This could be interesting, going to have to think about this for a bit. Too bad emplacements dont work for americans and ami infantry dont get lt and captain buffs (i think, not really sure how to test it)

I can test it by giving the lt buff 500% damage increase or something, then running it with a rifle squad and seeing what happens.. if i get a chance i will.

[Malevolence]

Next patch:

Salan - "Shit! I forgot to set LT bonus back to normal! Sorry everyone!"
Everyone Else - "GO COMMONWEALTH FUCK YEAH!"

[Tymathee]

This could be interesting, going to have to think about this for a bit. Too bad emplacements dont work for americans and ami infantry dont get lt and captain buffs (i think, not really sure how to test it)

I can test it by giving the lt buff 500% damage increase or something, then running it with a rifle squad and seeing what happens.. if i get a chance i will.

Cool. Let us know how that works out, I'd love to know imagine a ranger with lt

One thing I do know is that if you have brits, the lt works for ami infantry but if ur ami its hard to tell if it works for them. Or we could wait for the american officer i've been waiting for my whole life. At the same time, gonna make it tough cuz i love the concussion nades now...and infantry need off maps and i love heavy weapons

[Tymathee]

I'm just going to do american for now cuz tahts what I know best.

Armor
Sherman 2/1
M10 2/1
M18 1/1
Croc 1/1

Infantry
Rifles 7/3
M3 3/1
Quad 1/2
Engie 3/2 (able to build triage)

support
hmg 2/1
mortar 2/1
at 2/1
sniper 1/0

[Theonepower777]

Wehrmacht Reinforcements

Urban Forces
2/1 Puma
4/4 Volks
2/1 Infantry Halftrack
3/1 HMG


Artillery Support
1/1 Nebelwerfer
2/1 Mortar
1/1 Officer
4/1 Grenadiers


Anti Tank Hunters
3/1 Stormtroopers
2/1 Pak 38
2/1 Panzer 4
4/3 Pioneers

[Aggamemnon]

Recon/arty section.

2 recon tommies.
1 lt. (with a mortar like call in, not foo).
2 Mortars (american one with smoke)
1 sniper.

[Sharpshooter824]

I just have one..

(Allied)

Light Assault Vehicles

M18
M8
M3 Halftrack
Engineers with optional minesweeper/flamethrower/mine upgrade

[SteveBallmer]

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[deadbolt]

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Nice first post

[Smokaz]

This is just a idea if the devs want to really tone it down, I would be in favor of the reinforcement packages being a little more spectacular than this:

Axis

PE Armor reinforcements

- Armored Car
- P4 IST
- Panther
- Hotchkiss *plz buff me*

PE infantry infantry reinforcements

- Panzergrenadiers
- Assault grens
- Tank busters
- Infantry halftrack

PE support reinforcements

- Mortar halftrack
- Vampire HT
- Munitions HT
- Healing scout  car

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Wehrmacht Armor reinforcements:

- Panzer 4
- Stug
- Ostwind
- Puma

Wehrmacht infantry reinforcements

- Grenaders
- Pioneers
- Knights Cross
- Volks

Wehrmacht support reinforcements:

- Mg42
- Pioneers
- Sniper
- Pak

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American infantry

- Rifles
- Engineers
- Sniper
- 30 cal

American armor

- Sherman
- m10
- m18
- Crocodile

American support

- Quad
- Sniper
- 60mm mortar
- T17

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British infantry

- Tommies
- Sappers
- LT
- Captain

British armor
- Cromwell
- Firefly
- Stuart
- Staghound

British support
- Mortar pit
- Bren carrier
- 17 pounder
- 25 pounder

[Smokaz]

NOW that mundane and boring reinforcement packages are out of they way, Let me show you how a wet dream of reinforcement packages would look like without being completely homoed up by some packs overshadowing each other:

PE UTILITY SUPERPACK!
- Infantry halftrack for clowncar goodness
- Healing scout car
- Vampire HT FLANKS NO MOAR
- Mortar ht, my mortars are IMMUNE to counter-mortars *availability of 0, in supply of 1

PE Assault superpack
- P4 IS4
- Fallschirms *availability of 0, in supply of two
- Mp44  FLAMMEN Assault grens *availability of 2
- Panzergrens

PE armor super pack
- P4 IST
- Panther
- Hetzer *availability of 0, in supply 1
- Wirbelwind

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Wehrmacht I-CAMP-U super pack

- Mg42 *availability of 3
- Pak
- Pioneers
- Officer *availability of 0, in supply 1

Wehrmacht SUPER INF reinforcement pack
- Stormtroopers
- Grenadiers
- KCH
- Volks

Wehrmacht AWESOME TANKS reinforcement package:

- Panther
- Stuh42
- P4
- Stug

Americans infantry supermen package
- Rangers *availability of 0, in supply 2
- Airborne **availability of 0, in supply 2
- Sniper
- Engineers

Americans armor/vehiclespam goodness
- Sherman *availaiblity of 4
- Croc *availability of 1
- T17 *availability of 2
- Quad *availability of 3

American Support Awesomeness
- Howitzer *prone to offmaps, availability of 2
- Rifles
- 60 mm mortar
- American officer

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British infantry superspam
- Tommies
- Bren carrier
- Sappers
- LT AND captain *this pack would be weak without it

British awesome tanks:
- Firefly *availability of 1
- Churchill crocodile *availability of 0, in supply 2
- Cromwell CCT
- Bangbus

British emplacement horde/support
- Commando sniper
- Priest
- Mortar pit
- 17 pounder

[SaintPauli]

Here is an idea for a MIN/MAX reinforcement system:
The player gets a maximum of 4 unlocks of his own choice. Each unlock cost 25pps.

The following axis units count as 1 unlock:

Pioneers 
Volksgrenadiers 
Bike
Grenadiers
Halftrack
Flammenwerfer
Puma
KCH
StuG
Ostwind
Panzer Grenadiers
Assault Grenediers
Tank Buster Grenadiers
Luftwaffe Infantry
Panzer IV 'IS'
Marder III
Hotchkiss
Kettenkrad
Scout Car
Armored Car
WirbleWind


 
The following axis units count as 1 unlock or 2 unlocks if you don’t have the unit: 

Mortar
Sniper
PaK
MG42
Nebelwerfer
StuH
PzIV
Walking Stuka
Radio equipped Scout Car
Mortar Halftrack
Light AT Halftrack
Hetzer
Vampire Halftrack


The following axis units count as 2 unlock and can only be bought if you already have the unit:

Stormtroopers
Officer
Fallschirmjager
Infantry Halftrack
Munitions Halftrack


The following axis units count as 1 unlock:

Engineers
Riflemen
Jeep
.30 Cal
Mortar
57mm
M3 Halftrack
Quad .50
M8
Tommy Infantry Section
Tommy Recon Infantry Section
Sappers
6pdr AT Gun
Vickers MG Team
2" Mortar
Stuart Light Tank
Cromwell
Staghound
  

The following allied units count as 1 unlock or 2 unlocks if you don’t have the unit: 

Sniper
M10
Hellcat
Sherman
Crocodile
Tetrarch Light Tank
Sherman Firefly
Churchill MK IV
Bren MMG carrier


The following allied units count as 2 unlock and can only be bought if you already have the unit:

Lieutenant
Captain
Commando's
Piat Commando's
Mortar Commando's
HMG Commando's
Cromwell Command tank
Churchill Avre
Churchill Crocodile
Bren Gun Carrier
Kangaroo 
Rangers
Airborne
Airborne 57mm
Howitzer

[acker]

The LT, Captain, and CCT can't be bought by the Americans?

[thaelmann]

i really like the idea of not getting packages but single units.
but i doubt any pe player would for example get some pioneers that take up two unlocks.

if you got four unlock points to spend, maybe basic inf and support should be 1 pt, elite inf and light vehicles 2 pts, and tanks 3 pts.

and i suggest to leave the heavy tanks out of this. otherwise we'll see a lot more double kt/triple persh companies.