A bit disappointed as to EIR:R plays out.

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[Spitfire92]

Sorry, I still love this mod and will continue to play it, but it is really realyl really really really frustrating for newer players, and

I can see why many newer players would not want commit to this mod.

My main beef is that, well, it seems that the main tactic is blobbing. It's "Put ur vet 3 airborne with my vet 3 Commandos" together and win.

I understand, ARTILLERY, but honostly, nothing seems to harm them, especially at vet 2-3.

Maybe it is becaus the allied have a bunch of more stuff to use, hell, even new stuff I.E. Officer bonuses, but I really got this mod in hopes that I could play a blob free game. I wanted squad v squad with a dash of support or a dash of armor to help, you know what I mean. I'll keep playing, and maybe this will get fixed, but I am a bit disappointed you guys...more so in the player base than the moderators, I have the upmost respect for fixing the factions, (particularly the British).

A couple of other problems, I am seeing a helluva lot more vet 3 bren tommies...they're near invincible, which goes to vet, and it's annoying that we have to commit so much resources just to realize they still have another half of a company, well, that is for the newer players.

I'm also a bit concerned about some certain units...the Commando sniper for one example, and im not complaining about their effectiveness, it's that they dont die. Ever. Even with a puma a good range, they dont die.

You know what, I'm done ranting. All i can say is that I'm truely a bit disappointed...

[Killer344]

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=11254.msg192454;topicseen#new

[EliteGren]

Did you watch some replay to see how some of the higher level players handle this sort of stuff?

[EIRRMod]

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=11254.msg192454;topicseen#new

I think the OP was aiming at something different, not the PP low rank vs high rank - but the way that the elite units tend to be atm.

And hes right, they are harder to tackle, but there are ways.

[Two]

Thats what happens when you blob against me and yet we still lose Blobbing ftl

[boobaka]

 

[jackmccrack]

Thats what happens when you blob against me and yet we still lose Blobbing ftl

wtf @ that K/D ratio LOL

[pernik]

meh, in my last 5 games or so God put me against bl0bz with Superheavy tanks (KT etc.) behind them... damn, that sucks! i gotta try it too, looks like maybe blobbing my airborne as hell is the only way to win these days

LOL - Airborne day in its full parade but i can see why there was such a force dropped out there

[EIRRMod]

Eh....

That AB blob really is.... scary.

[Lai]

And yet it says you lost, two...  

[EIRRMod]

Eh....

That AB blob really is.... scary.

Quoting myself.. anyway.

Theres quite a lot of MU tied up in that blob.
While the first 'push' of it would pretty much wipe anything off, I dont see it as impossible to counter.

Still, DOES need a look at.

[Two]

And yet it says you lost, two... 

Yeah backcapped I thought it was going to be close with them with no units, i look at the map at the end and theres 2 more blobs and a m10/sherman blob. I was like WTF!

[Aggamemnon]

It goes both ways really.

New players to CoH are gonna have major problems.
New players to EiR will have some problems, but depending on Vcoh skill, should still be able to hard counter units.

Generally though, someone with a good grasp of basic CoH tactics, who can adjust to the way squads/call-ins work, should not be having a major problem with anything ingame.

Vet is something that could be toned down, but then, what do you work for?

This is from the point of a next to nothing vet company, I use my troops to the last man generally, and prefer to lose squads and cause enough damage to win the battle/war than to harvest exp and vet my units.
Of course it's hard to face vet units, even volks with vet 3 are a pain in the arse, but it's all counter-weighted by them being retreated earlier.

As an aside, I have been getting abuse non stop for using my artillery doctrine to it's full potential, yet the same people have double Knights cross vet call ins, and double vet falls call ins etc.

At one point we faced 2 new ATHT, 2 mortar HT and 2 P4's and they still cried about me using my earthshaker.
Then double firestormed us haha.

[Jazlizard]

Oi! 4 airborne players in a 4v4.

[pernik]

Still, DOES need a look at.

dammit, here goes the price increase of RRs and whatsoever :/

[Killer344]

Eh....

That AB blob really is.... scary.

Quoting myself.. anyway.

Theres quite a lot of MU tied up in that blob.
While the first 'push' of it would pretty much wipe anything off, I dont see it as impossible to counter.

Still, DOES need a look at.

That kind of blobs is the reason why I have a company with a vet 3 stuka, vet 3 nebel, rocket arty, large rockets, ready rounds and an officer rofl.

[Groundfire]

Yep, RRs, the only thing that can stand up to heavy armor spam.

NERF! I say!

[EIRRMod]

Still, DOES need a look at.

dammit, here goes the price increase of RRs and whatsoever :/

No, the issue isnt with costing for that.

Its with the availability of AB troops, although, as availability is a soft cap, itd only reduce the frequecy of seeing this, rather than eliminate it.

RR is fine in cost, if you look at that blob, and manage to stall it - the rest of the company will be quite attritted for MU.

[boobaka]

i can't find the replay atm but that blob was killed of if u didn't know..

i found it. watch the bigest blob of EIRR times
http://www.filefront.com/14130925/blobfestkillfest.rar

[Spitfire92]

First of my little post thingy is freaking the hell out and wont stop going up and down...2nd off, I have some good experience playing vCOH, I know how to handle units and which units do well against what etc, know how to path tanks as good as the AI will allow, etc. for instance, I palyed 1v1 as British and got up to...i think it was 500 rank area? nontheless, I know what I am doing. I've played this game for 3 years now.Agreed, that airborne spam looks eerie, but it's from all 4 players having the same doctrine choices. If all 4 playeres went luftwaffe and had flak 38's and wirble's and falls....you know, those games (albiet spam and really lame), are just one in a million.

yes, I'm newer to EIR:R, but let me post a game I played today with a guy named Jack. Jack is really Good. Jack has a lot of Vet. Jack knows what's going on..but our team came SO CLOSE to winning, it's just that sometimes numbers and statistics win, regardless of tactics. I've played him 5-7 times today, lost all of them lol, because he was the only allied player on...and i suddenly realized i cant for the life of me remember if i need to post the file of the game or not...and i dont remember the game #. CRAP.

For instance, I cant remember when, but I had just sneaked around some defenses, took out the mortar and AT gun, panther sniped the Quad, and all that was left was a lone, vet 3 bren tommy squad with an lmg42. 2 quads of STG44'd Stormies in heavy cover with a panther point blank, against a 3-4 man vet 3 squad. Honostly, I lost 6 stormies in the last strech of fighting against the last 1-2 tommies. I'd like to look at the veterancy tables. Hell, the panther was pushing them out of cover so they couldnt fire their stationary bren guns...GAHHH