pqumsieh
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« on: July 29, 2009, 01:33:37 pm » |
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Hey guys,
I've been taking a look at the M8 and the costs required to make it effective. Currently, you are looking at 50 muni for the 50 cal, 60 for skirts, and another 20 for repairs for a totaly of 130 munitions. When compared to other armored cars, the M8 leads the way in terms of munition costs.
The 50 cal and repair cost seem fine, but the skirts need adjustment. I think we should replace the cost of the skirt with a 50 mp and 30 fuel cost rather then a 60 munition cost.
Whats the consenses on this one?
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2009, 01:49:16 pm » |
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tbh the M8 shouldn't have to pay for the skirts.. without the skirts it is, one shot and its down to a sliver of HP and usually crippled in some way..
The M8 skirts should come with the M8..
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| jackmccrack
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2009, 01:54:13 pm » |
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It's a tough upgrade to balance as far as costs go. For some people, 50muni and 30 fuel is much more expensive than 60 muni.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2009, 02:09:54 pm » |
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skirts used to be 100mu, 60 is just fine tbh, it doubles its health, the mines deal a shit ton of damage and always crit, the .50 + gun rapes infantry and it's fast as hell.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2009, 02:29:37 pm » |
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yes M8 needs double the HP because it gets nearly one shotted by any dedicated AT.. 100 muni for skirts was just crazy but tbh skirts should just come included for this unit..
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2009, 02:36:50 pm » |
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I'm with Jack, I'd rather pay the munis than the extra fuel...
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2009, 03:06:24 pm » |
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I think the gunner is broke, the games ive played after the M8 recieves one hit the gunner instantly dies.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2009, 03:08:48 pm » |
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Yeah the M8's gunner dies to alot of things.. really quickly..
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2009, 04:25:11 pm » |
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yes M8 needs double the HP because it gets nearly one shotted by any dedicated AT.. 100 muni for skirts was just crazy but tbh skirts should just come included for this unit..
Well if it is getting nearly one shotted by dedicated AT then I guess the dedicated AT is doing its job. Why would you bring an M8 near the firing range of dedicated AT anyways? |
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2009, 05:00:53 pm » |
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yes M8 needs double the HP because it gets nearly one shotted by any dedicated AT.. 100 muni for skirts was just crazy but tbh skirts should just come included for this unit..
Well if it is getting nearly one shotted by dedicated AT then I guess the dedicated AT is doing its job. Why would you bring an M8 near the firing range of dedicated AT anyways? its sharpshooter, dont take him serious =) do you even know how many HP a m8 has and what skirts do to it? first inform yourself about stats, then post, clueless guy |
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2009, 05:18:38 pm » |
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Last I checked panthers one shot M8s without skirts and paks practically one shot them usually leaving with with a sliver of health and destroying the main gun, it needs skirts to have any shot at staying alive for more then a second when some form of dedicated AT pops out of no where and the M8 needs to escape, 60 munitions for an upgrade that you must have just to survive more then a shot needs to be changed.
And I love this, aloha personal attacks me and tells me im clueless when im simply stating a perfectly correct fact, what the crap do you mean look at the stats, what am I saying that is wrong? The m8 simply needs skirts to have enough HP to survive more then a couple AT shots.
and 60 munis for an armored car is rather high, either it should be reduced even lower, maybe 40 munitions, or make it come with the M8 and give the M8 a slight manpower and fuel increase.
even a stuart or hotchkiss has more health then an unskirted M8.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2009, 05:24:23 pm » |
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panthers cant oneshot unskirted m8s. impossible. i wont read on because i think ill see even more wrong statements
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2009, 05:26:25 pm » |
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panthers cant oneshot unskirted m8s. impossible. i wont read on because i think ill see even more wrong statements
LOL, please don't read on, you are ruining the discussion by making personal attacks instead of talking about how this can be balanced. I've seen panthers one shot unskirted M8s multiple times. Plain and Simple. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2009, 05:31:05 pm » |
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i dont destroy it, its just...in every single post there is at least 1 wrong statement. is it really so hard to visit this page: www.coh-stats.com ? no it isnt |
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2009, 05:32:07 pm » |
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panthers cant oneshot unskirted m8s. impossible. i wont read on because i think ill see even more wrong statements
It happens, the Panther shoots and the M8 goes out of control. |
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2009, 05:32:21 pm » |
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panthers cant oneshot unskirted m8s. impossible. i wont read on because i think ill see even more wrong statements
Panthers with heat rounds one shots unskirted M8s, vet 3 panthers also one shots M8. More importantly, a cloaked pak will one shot a skirted M8. |
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2009, 05:33:05 pm » |
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yes M8 needs double the HP because it gets nearly one shotted by any dedicated AT.. 100 muni for skirts was just crazy but tbh skirts should just come included for this unit..
Well if it is getting nearly one shotted by dedicated AT then I guess the dedicated AT is doing its job. Why would you bring an M8 near the firing range of dedicated AT anyways? So you would be ok with 57mm one shotting an infantry HT?  |
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2009, 05:40:20 pm » |
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yes M8 needs double the HP because it gets nearly one shotted by any dedicated AT.. 100 muni for skirts was just crazy but tbh skirts should just come included for this unit..
Well if it is getting nearly one shotted by dedicated AT then I guess the dedicated AT is doing its job. Why would you bring an M8 near the firing range of dedicated AT anyways? Hey i know, lets not go near a cloaked pak or Stormies! I got uber sense so dont worry i know where they are!  ops i just thought they where hidden not invisible, my bad mate Think its better if we send a jeep first everytime before we call in a m8 to locate all the dedicated AT lol |
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2009, 08:00:40 pm » |
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so, should we lower the price or just switch it to a small MP/fuel upgrade.
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2009, 08:27:45 pm » |
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Small MP/fuel upgrade!
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