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[Akranadas]

Well, if your going armour company... you kinda want to play with vehicles.

[FailHammer]

I think issue here is that the company builds themselves shouldnt determine the game before it starts. The timing of the unit call outs and the way you use them. PQ goes after your at and then calls in his pershing late game. Fuckin strategery. having 2 kts or 3 pershings means your ally must oversupply at or he loses plain and simple unless you are a complete fucknut.

[fallensoldier7]

Your not the only one spamming light vehicles Ive been seeing alot of it
lately.....

I only know of 4 people that do it (including myself).  I kinda want to play against these people because I like a challenge and everyone's complaining that it's so OP.

Another reason my company works well is that other people's companies are so predictable.  As soon as they see my light vehicles I pretty much know exactly what they're going to bring on, and I can have my counters set up already.

I think issue here is that the company builds themselves shouldnt determine the game before it starts. The timing of the unit call outs and the way you use them. PQ goes after your at and then calls in his pershing late game. Fuckin strategery. having 2 kts or 3 pershings means your ally must oversupply at or he loses plain and simple unless you are a complete fucknut.

Well if you don't want company builds to determine the game then everyone would have to have relatively the same company build (which is boring because there would be no uniqueness to any company).  Even with a lot of players running "gimmicks" I still think it comes down to micro and effective decision making to win games.

[shockcoil]

So we're backing to people complaining about light vehicles spam again? Damn that takes me back. Still remember people shouting so much at Louis for that shit 

Anyways its really not that hard to deal with. get 2 paks covering eachother and youre set. Get shreck and tank support as well and that defence is airtight against those things.

[fallensoldier7]

So we're backing to people complaining about light vehicles spam again? Damn that takes me back. Still remember people shouting so much at Louis for that shit 

Anyways its really not that hard to deal with. get 2 paks covering eachother and youre set. Get shreck and tank support as well and that defence is airtight against those things.

See everyone?  It's counterable after all!

I think another problem is that people see 2-4 light vehicles and they bring on their usual light vehicle/tank counter (for wehr it's usually a pak and maybe a shrek squad).  The thing is, their call-in is usually used for a single light vehicle or tank running around.  If I've got 4, then I can easily overrun it.  Now the player has 2 options: they can either call in more than the usual amount (which is the smart thing to do since it actually counters the light vehicles) or they keep using their fail single AT call-ins, lose the game, and complain about light vehicles being OP.

[shockcoil]

I can't even fathom how someone loses to 4 m8s. I wouldn't even classify 4 as spam. When people used to do it they had over 8 armour upgraded m8s running around. Not to mention OBM was a lot ridiculous and m8s were as cheap as chips with those armour abilities

[fallensoldier7]

I can't even fathom how someone loses to 4 m8s. I wouldn't even classify 4 as spam. When people used to do it they had over 8 armour upgraded m8s running around. Not to mention OBM was a lot ridiculous and m8s were as cheap as chips with those armour abilities

Oh believe me I have many many more than just 4 light vehicles.  It's impossible to have more than 8 on the field at once because pop doesn't go that high lol.

[shockcoil]

That means you're oversupplied which makes it even less reason to complain because youre sacrificing your own company to do it.

[jackmccrack]

That means you're oversupplied which makes it even less reason to complain because youre sacrificing your own company to do it.

Well that depends on the result of the match.

[Mysthalin]

30 OBM fully upgraded greyhounds. When OBM repaired all the time, and wasn't just an extra use of repairs .

Just fathom that, think it over, and wonder how bad that'd be.
Now realise the truth that this used to happen.
Now imagine if it came back?
Now is the current light vehi spam OP?

[Computer991]

So we're backing to people complaining about light vehicles spam again? Damn that takes me back. Still remember people shouting so much at Louis for that shit 

Anyways its really not that hard to deal with. get 2 paks covering eachother and youre set. Get shreck and tank support as well and that defence is airtight against those things.

See everyone?  It's counterable after all!

I think another problem is that people see 2-4 light vehicles and they bring on their usual light vehicle/tank counter (for wehr it's usually a pak and maybe a shrek squad).  The thing is, their call-in is usually used for a single light vehicle or tank running around.  If I've got 4, then I can easily overrun it.  Now the player has 2 options: they can either call in more than the usual amount (which is the smart thing to do since it actually counters the light vehicles) or they keep using their fail single AT call-ins, lose the game, and complain about light vehicles being OP.

It is counter able but its a shit way to play,not everyone has an all AT company.

6 p4's and a couple of pak guns doesn't beat the spam 6 17's easily over run that.

Its not even that anyhow most of the games I've played with you you box in my infantry and then kill them with the spam,it's turning the game into a real shit fest.

[CrazyWR]

its not that tough to counter ffs...you just have to have more than a normal amount of AT on the field.  Adapt and overcome. If you know you're playing someone that does it, add AT.  If you just find out in-game, try to keep excess amounts on the field most of the game, along with cheap anti-blob counters like an mg and an assault nade mp40 volks squad or something.

[wildsolus]

NOBODY is running 6 t17's so don't say that is > 6 p4's and paks....



fallen..i'll play you with mine B)

[AmPM]

It is counter able but its a shit way to play,not everyone has an all AT company.

6 p4's and a couple of pak guns doesn't beat the spam 6 17's easily over run that.

Its not even that anyhow most of the games I've played with you you box in my infantry and then kill them with the spam,it's turning the game into a real shit fest.

Yea, we should also limit people to 1-2 infantry squads at a time, sometimes I am using a pair of m18's and they don't deal well with infantry. Infantry and support spam is a shit way to play.

I am also curious how t17's overrun a P4...you know, because their gun bounces off halftracks....just wondering. Maybe you mean they have support and kill you because you didn't adapt or work with your teammate?

[RazorSheltem]

Admit it, it's much more insulting to lose to someone who has a theme for their army. Ever been pissed at losing a game to a balanced, well rounded company? Fuck no.

Ever been pissed at losing a game to someone who has the max amount of a certain annoying unit? Hell yes. Everyone has.

3 Pershings.
Oversupplied AB.
Arty Spam.
P4 Spam.
King Tigers.
3 Commando Snipers.
Rangerspam.

All these are gimmicks. Tough to beat, tough to counter. You've got to theme your own damn army to counter this shit. When you beat the other guy's shitball min/max set up, he'll accuse you of gimmickry too.

 Amen to that...

yep

[fallensoldier7]

NOBODY is running 6 t17's so don't say that is > 6 p4's and paks....



fallen..i'll play you with mine B)

Sure wild, then I'll post the replay of me winning

[Akranadas]

Doctrines just need a equal disadvantage to the advantage.

[wildsolus]

lol fallen

if you design a company to destroy another chances are it'll win

but we'll see

[fallensoldier7]

lol fallen

if you design a company to destroy another chances are it'll win

but we'll see

Nah I'm not gonna change my company when I play yours.

Btw.. I played earlier against PQ.  His Luft tankbusters gave my light vehicles quite a beating, but we still managed to beat him because his teammate was playing a bit too defensively.

Wild I KNOW you like those T17s at the top of the leaderboard 

[wildsolus]

remember, i could care less if i lose them. they are incredibly easy to vet up if you know how to use them + obm.

plus, vet doesn't truly matter right now since it's a free for all everyone's level 8.