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Two Offline
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« on: August 15, 2009, 11:50:20 am »

They suck.

Only usable in clown cars or blobs.


I always thought pgrens should be small numbers and expensive, but do alot of damage and take a good amount of hits. Right now they are just small numbers and suck.

Buff damage on their normal rifles just slightly and health (or armour type), so they can stand and fight by themselves, and defend the vehicles around them.

Charging g43s should be a deathwish so id say buff their damage with a slight cost increase, they should be the best long range rifle.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2009, 11:53:54 am »

Salan said he was considering the old infantry armor change, he should comment on this.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2009, 12:10:52 pm »

Salan said he was considering the old infantry armor change, he should comment on this.

You should comment why your in this forum when you should be enjoying your holiday.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2009, 01:52:42 pm »

Top secret. Move along.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2009, 03:10:38 pm »

As a first step we will likely be making Veteran Sergeant cheaper.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2009, 03:47:39 pm »

Is it actually working now?
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2009, 03:48:49 pm »

As a first step we will likely be making Veteran Sergeant cheaper.

Or make him do more than just suppression resistance?  At least, I think thats all he does now.
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Two Offline
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2009, 05:29:04 pm »

As a first step we will likely be making Veteran Sergeant cheaper.

Or make him do more than just suppression resistance?  At least, I think thats all he does now.

I thought he helped get vet faster aswell Shocked If he gives a suppression resistance it aint working, they get insta suppressed by 30cals max range :/
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2009, 05:36:11 pm »

no just suppression Resistance which is kinda gay.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2009, 09:48:24 pm »

I thought the .30 dealt less suppr than the mg42, but in turn was more deadly. I have been playing PE and I get suppressed almost instantly after 1/2 burst. Did they change the suppr on the 30?
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2009, 09:56:16 pm »

I thought the .30 dealt less suppr than the mg42, but in turn was more deadly. I have been playing PE and I get suppressed almost instantly after 1/2 burst. Did they change the suppr on the 30?
I does less suppression, but still suppresses extremely quickly. Even Grens get suppressed on the first burst of a .30, so the MG42's extra suppression is kinda pointless (especially since so many Allied units can just Fire Up). It's the extra range that gives the 42 its edge.

Anyways, I agree that PGrens suck; a buff or two is in order.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2009, 10:43:20 pm »

1.) The thing that bugs me the most with PGrens is how you can take 1 stray rifle nade or other attack like that, and lose ~75% on your guys. The fact that PGrens have small squads and automatically bunch together as a unit makes them uber prone to these stray shots. 1 rifle nade shouldnt negate the fighting capability of an entire squad! In a distanced firefight PGrens stand up ok, but i feel they die so fast still due to their low squad size (i.e t17 gibbing 1 member after another)

2.) What DOES the vet sergeant do?? People seem to speculate, but I would like a concrete answer from the devs. Thank you Smiley

EDIT: Illegal said it gives some suppression resistance, but it seems totally unnoticeable. So why should we buy it then?
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2009, 10:53:07 pm »

2.) What DOES the vet sergeant do?? People seem to speculate, but I would like a concrete answer from the devs. Thank you Smiley
EDIT: Illegal said it gives some suppression resistance, but it seems totally unnoticeable. So why should we buy it then?

I'm not a dev but i'm sure this is concrete evidence..
25% Less supression

Only 1 modifier the others are just blank
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Two Offline
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2009, 06:33:05 am »

damn id hate to see my pgrens without that upgrade, rpob get suppressed by rifles :/
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2009, 01:47:48 pm »

PGrens are fine, they are great infantry if you know what you are doing with them, easily able to hold their own against similar units (rifles, volks, grens, AB), they are not meant to be full on elite assault troops, even the Assault Grens,
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2009, 02:06:35 pm »

without g43s they are shit.
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Two Offline
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2009, 02:11:40 pm »

with g43s there shit, 4 vet 2 squads lost to a charging flamer engie
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2009, 02:15:45 pm »

well thats kinda bad luck but still, they suck.

i bet this thread ends in a 'nerf pgrens' one.
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