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[Derrican]

I'm about 1 game away from deleting my PE company.

I can kill tanks.
I can't kill tanks with atgun and infantry (argh button, bazookas) support.
I can't kill infantry.

Yeh my units are so fast. But the maps are so small. My grenadiers die in 1-2 shots from a tank or vehicle. My halftracks die in 2-3 shots. No place to hit and run.

Then units are so specialised.
Marder 3 only kills tanks, but easily circled.
50mm is ok against tanks but dies fast, and dies super fast against light vehicles and is expensive.
Hotchkiss useless against infantry, upgun makes it even more useless against infantry although it can kill tanks.
Panzer4 IST good health but cannot do anything to tanks...

Any advice, or do I just suck, or does PE just suck?

[Mysthalin]

Hotchkiss owns infantry - just stay at range. It has 40 range, like the medium tanks.
However, I would not suggest using them to a new player : use assault grenadiers and G43s instead.

[Chubba]

Any advice, or do I just suck, or does PE just suck?

Both.

[Derrican]

I checked stats on hotchkiss.

0.5 accuracy against infantry is ok? Normal tanks have 0.75.
The upgun reduces it to 0.35, so I don't see how it can kill infantry.

I tried using panzergren inf but their health drops so fast. 1 tank shoots at them half the squad is dead and I need to retreat.

Oh, and machineguns -.-

[Tymathee]

I checked stats on hotchkiss.

0.5 accuracy against infantry is ok? Normal tanks have 0.75.
The upgun reduces it to 0.35, so I don't see how it can kill infantry.

I tried using panzergren inf but their health drops so fast. 1 tank shoots at them half the squad is dead and I need to retreat.

Oh, and machineguns -.-

actually if i remember, the hotchkiss got a buff vs infantry with our mod and now the gun has the same accuracy vs infantry as does the m8 when its upgunned

[Demon767]

Mortar is your only friend

[Mysthalin]

I guess you looked at it in CoH stats.
The actual accuracy is 0.75 against infantry, and it doesn't matter if hte infantry is moving.
Upgun isn't meant to kill infantry - it penetrates pershings at long range 100 percent of the time - you use it as AT .

As for panzergrenadiers, use assault grens aboard IHTs and flank.
Though, seeing as you're a newbie, just go for wehrmacht or brits, it's much easier to start your career with those two factions.

[Tymathee]

I'm about 1 game away from deleting my PE company.

I can kill tanks.
I can't kill tanks with atgun and infantry (argh button, bazookas) support.
I can't kill infantry.

Yeh my units are so fast. But the maps are so small. My grenadiers die in 1-2 shots from a tank or vehicle. My halftracks die in 2-3 shots. No place to hit and run.

Then units are so specialised.
Marder 3 only kills tanks, but easily circled.
50mm is ok against tanks but dies fast, and dies super fast against light vehicles and is expensive.
Hotchkiss useless against infantry, upgun makes it even more useless against infantry although it can kill tanks.
Panzer4 IST good health but cannot do anything to tanks...

Any advice, or do I just suck, or does PE just suck?

p4's rape infantry, and are fairly good vs light vehicles and only do well vs tanks if you ass 'em.

Inf ht's suppress well and do good damage, i froget the name lol.

the other halftrack that costs 50 fuel is very good vs infantry, pair it with a iht which w ill suppress and it just absolutely kills infantry.

[BigDick]

if you are kind of new to eir pe is the worst choice...you should think about making an other company

- pe has many hardcounters that are glasscannons...
  # that means u need really good micro
  # that means u need to have a feeling about the ,od to know exactly what counters do you need
- pe is imho still by far the weakest faction (even when some things have improved)

so my tip is to try out other factions first when you are new

[Unkn0wn]

Mortar HTs are your best friends.

[Two]

PE is easy, everyone else playing them should be ashamed, i haven't played them in over 2 months and yet i still have several units on the leaderboard

[BigDick]

it is? i still have all your ranging about your marders and suff in my ears when i played your pe company xD

[Two]

Well i also made threads saying how shit pgrens were when i managed to get atleast 10 inf kills per squad a game

[RikiRude]

I found PE very difficult to play myself. I seem to have gotten pretty decent with all factions, but PE. Though I do plan on playing them once my WM company is finished being filled out.

[wildsolus]

played a pretty good game against you last night and i only had 2 or 3 more call ins left


can't believe i lost 3 at guns to teller mines....and can't believe you had like 9 or 10 tellers total lol

[Warlight]

PE is easy, everyone else playing them should be ashamed, i haven't played them in over 2 months and yet i still have several units on the leaderboard

This is stupid.  When you arn't playing with them, they will stay on the leaderboard, because THEY CANNOT GET KILLED IF THEY ARN'T PLAYED WITH.

I've played PE just as much as you, they are far from easy, even if the quoted argument above made an sence.

[GeneralGlacko]

Mortar HTs are your best friends.

Try and get 3 of these best friends, and you're golden ^^

[Two]

PE is easy, everyone else playing them should be ashamed, i haven't played them in over 2 months and yet i still have several units on the leaderboard

This is stupid.  When you arn't playing with them, they will stay on the leaderboard, because THEY CANNOT GET KILLED IF THEY ARN'T PLAYED WITH.

I've played PE just as much as you, they are far from easy, even if the quoted argument above made an sence.

Yet everyone can rank theirs and easily over take, why isnt the PE board full of panthers hummels and falls like it was?

[HansVonLuk]

Mortar HTs are your best friends.

Try and get 3 of these best friends, and you're golden ^^

I Have 0, yes Zero MHTs in my PE, with all the light vechlie spam a 6 pop unit that cost alot and dies pretty easy is just an acceptable risk, yes there can get good kill tallys but then again you have to have 3 to make sure you can use them.  3 of them just gimps your company.

[BigDick]

Yet everyone can rank theirs and easily over take, why isnt the PE board full of panthers hummels and falls like it was?

because not many play these fail faction
and some who do get so annoyed after a couple of games that they ragedelete their accounts