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Author Topic: Armor HE Rounds needs reworked  (Read 7176 times)
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Sharpshooter824 Offline
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« on: September 26, 2009, 07:49:39 am »

Alright well, as it is now it pretty much just makes my tanks be able to always hit an infantry man and kill it but i believe HE rounds should be increased splash and accuracy, not damage and accuracy because these are High Explosive rounds they should be able to take out several infantry at a time.. to clean this up I say

HE Rounds:

-Increased Splash
-Increased Accuracy
-Only Available for purchase on pershings and shermans because these would be to powerful for light vehicles.


Please read and discuss, thank you.
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 07:50:33 am »

You mean you DON'T like your pershing one-shotting pumas, IHTs and the like? :O
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2009, 07:52:52 am »

Actually I haven't got to test that mysthalin but thats not the point, they are High explosive rounds for a reason, to kill several infantry at a time, not to increasee my damage so I can one shot a puma..
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2009, 07:54:39 am »

You see, the pershing has wide enough splash as it is, if it were increased further - it'd just one shot entire blobs. With this, the long-range splash of the pershing will do enough damage to kill infantry caught in it, and the accuracy will mean you will always hit said infantry, making it quite perfectly balanced. It also lets your pershing utterly rape light vehicles, which makes it a pretty decent T4.
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Sharpshooter824 Offline
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2009, 07:55:25 am »

hmm I guess so, I just havent seen my pershing ever have big splash tbh lol
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2009, 07:56:10 am »

So it's just my, deadbolt's and nijo's pershings that take out 3 grens with each of their shots.
I feel... special.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2009, 11:01:47 am »

So it's just my, deadbolt's and nijo's pershings that take out 3 grens with each of their shots.
I feel... special.

After using them for 2 years I have to say they average 2 mans per shot. ZEAL kinda contributes to the number becoming 1.5
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2009, 11:26:33 am »

How about an accuracy nerf with a splash radius increase. Like accuracy -25% splash +25% +25% damage so that it's not used against light vehicles as much and gets used for its intended purpose, taking out infantry. and with the accuracy, it'll be random if it actually hits infantry but if its close it'll still at least damage much like the IST.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2009, 11:28:23 am »

thats silly, it should be increased accuracy and splash with reduced penetration.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2009, 11:41:24 am »

With reduced accuracy, it would be absolutely worthless, no matter the range.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2009, 11:49:55 am »

I'd imagine HE rounds would do severe damage to any light vehicle whose paper-thin armour can't deflect it :O
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2009, 11:55:00 am »

As I said misten - it would one shot halftracks and pumas with perfect accuracy ^^.

Too bad noone wants it over OBM. I don't either, tbh ;P.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2009, 11:59:36 am »

T3 - HE rounds / T4 - AP rounds :p
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CrazyWR Offline
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2009, 12:04:09 pm »

Ya, thats what the PE t4 is essentially for jagds/hetzers.
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2009, 03:49:24 pm »

If anyone has actually USED HE rounds. You would notice if you used it on T17s and M8s it doesn't work. The .3 penetration makes it so that its shots deflect off Infantry.

If its used on tanks then tanks wont penetrate things like AT guns and Nebels. Also all tanks using HE rounds wont penetrate Snipers.
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2009, 04:48:08 pm »

If anyone has actually USED HE rounds. You would notice if you used it on T17s and M8s it doesn't work. The .3 penetration makes it so that its shots deflect off Infantry.

If its used on tanks then tanks wont penetrate things like AT guns and Nebels. Also all tanks using HE rounds wont penetrate Snipers.

lolz! i wanted to try this T4 pretty bad, maybe next war ill give it a go. pretty silly what it does to t17s and m8s. did you ever report that as a bug???
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2009, 05:52:37 pm »

Yup I have it reported.
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2009, 06:14:26 pm »

If anyone has actually USED HE rounds. You would notice if you used it on T17s and M8s it doesn't work. The .3 penetration makes it so that its shots deflect off Infantry.

If its used on tanks then tanks wont penetrate things like AT guns and Nebels. Also all tanks using HE rounds wont penetrate Snipers.

lol thats funny.
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Sharpshooter824 Offline
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2009, 07:29:35 pm »

uhh i am using HE rounds and tbh its really weak and worthless, i would love if a nice dev would remove it and let me rechoose my T4, spent all that time to get a pretty much worthless doctrine T4  Undecided
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2009, 10:40:14 pm »

uhh i am using HE rounds and tbh its really weak and worthless, i would love if a nice dev would remove it and let me rechoose my T4, spent all that time to get a pretty much worthless doctrine T4  Undecided

 I'd suggest sending one of them a very polite PM, or asking very kindly in vent when they aren't too busy.

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