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« on: October 04, 2009, 08:25:02 pm »

This was on another forum I have been active on and it was alot of fun so i thought I would post the starting poston that forum to see if yall would be interested in playin....

The Basics

The basic idea of the comic book draft game is a series of battles between hand-picked teams of superheroes and villains. Each player drafts a group of 8 heroes/villains off a list of possible choices. The teams then square off against each other in round-robin/tournament style play. Each player's team will square off against another player's team in a series of individual matches with the opponents being more or less randomly chosen. For example, if the teams were: (2 heroes per team is not realistic, but it's just to get the idea)

Player 1 - Superman, Batman
Player 2 - Captain America, Thor

Player 1 would play against player 2. Superman might fight Thor. And then Batman would fight Captain America. The player who gets the most individual wins gains victory for that battle/round.

There are three categories of player:

Commissioner (Me) - The Commissioner establishes the rules and organizes the game
Judge - The judges do not draft a team, instead they subjectively determine the outcome of the battles. There will be 3 judges total, the commissioner acts as one.
*Judges will be asked to write a match outcome along with a short explanation of each match-up.*
GM - These are the normal players, they draft a team and do battle.

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Sign-ups

There will be a maximum of 3 judges and 10 GMs. If we can't get 10, we may go with 8 or 6 or even a lower number if necessary (an even number is preferable). Even if we don't have a lot of players, there's still a lot of fighting to be done with each player having 8 characters. To sign-up to play use the format below:

Name:
Position (Judge/GM):
Signing-up!

Make sure you read the rules below which describe the game. Once you sign-up as a GM, you will be required to send in your list of draft picks. Instructions will be provided below. Read on!

Roster

Judges

1. D.Williams
2. Burke
3. Ngo

GMs

1. Callisto
2. Deegan
3. N.Woods (Mustard Lover)
4. Open Spot
5. Open Spot
6. Open Spot
7. Open Spot
8. Open Spot
9. Open Spot
10. Open Spot
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The Draft

The draft is the first part of the game. The objective is to select the best team of heroes and villains from the available lists. Each player selects 8 characters to compose their team. There are two lists below, a "Normal" List, and a "Power List." No player may have more than 3 characters from the power list on their team.

The most exciting way to do the draft would be to have the players pick round-robin style in a random order through posts. But this would take a long time. To speed things up everyone will simply submit an over-sized list of characters in order of draft preference to me via PM. Then, I will randomize the draft order and figure out who gets who.

So, to draft your team!

1. Send me a PM with Comic Book Draft in the subject
2. In your PM include a list of 25 characters in order of draft preference. Select characters from both the Power List and the Normal List below.

For example, let's say your first choice is Superman, your second choice is Batman and so forth....Your PM to me would look like this:


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1. Superman
2. Batman
...........etc.

Once I receive a PM from every player, I will use the randomized draft order to determine who gets who. For example. Let's say there are two players, Bob and Steve. Randomly, I figure out Bob gets first pick, Steve gets second pick. For the sake of simplicity, let's say they both submitted the list above 1. Superman, 2. Batman.

Bob's choice was Superman. Bob drafts Superman. Steve's first choice was also Superman, so instead he gets his second choice, Batman. And so on and so forth until each player has a team of 8. Because everyone is sending in a list of 25, I think all conflicts will be settled. If not, I will go as far as I can, post the results, and ask for a second set of PMs.

NOTES:

- Because you have no idea which ones you'll be able to draft in advance, you can include more than 3 power list characters in your list of 25. However, you will only be able to get a total of 3. So if I get to the 4th power character in your list, I'll just skip him.

- The draft will consist of a series of rounds. Round 1: Everyone choses a character, Round 2: Everyone chooses again, etc. I will flip the draft order each round. If you had first pick in round 1, you'll have last pick in round 2.

- Think carefully about your order. Put all your top priorities up front. You may get your first choice, and your second character may be choice 10 because 2-9 got picked by other people. Hey, it happens, but maybe you get lucky and get a lot of people you really want.

- Power characters don't necessarily always beat normal characters in battles. Some normal characters may be able to exploit certain weaknesses the power characters have. Additionally, only normal characters are able to use prep time (explained below).

Here are the lists:

"Normal"

Absorbing Man
Abomination
Angela
Annihilus
Ant-Man
Aquaman
Archangel
Atom Smasher
Aurora
Avalanche
Azrael
Bane
Banshee
Batman
Batgirl
Beast
Bishop
Black Mask
Black Panther
Black Tom Cassidy
Blade
Blastaar
Blob
Blockbuster
Blue Devil
Booster Gold
Bullseye
Cable
Cannonball
Captain America
Captain Boomerang
Captain Britain
Captain Cold
Captain Marvel Jr.
Carnage
Clayface (specify which)
Colossus
Constrictor
Cosmic Boy
Cyber
Cyborg
Cyclops
Daredevil
Darkhawk
The Darkness
Deadpool
Deathbird
Demogoblin
Doc Samson
Domino
Doppelganger
Dr. Bong
Dr. Doom
Dr. Octopus
Dr. Polaris
Deathstroke
Electro
Elektra
Emma Frost
Enchantress
Firestar
The Flash (Jay Garrick)
Forge
Gambit
Geo-Force
Ghost Rider
Gorilla Grodd
Green Arrow
Green Goblin
Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)
Green Lantern (John Stewart)
Gorgon
Guardian
Harley Quinn
Havok
Hawkeye
Hawkgirl
Hawkman
Hellboy
Hobgoblin
Holocaust
Human Torch
Iceman
Indigo
Invisible Woman
Iron Fist
Iron Man
Jade
Jean Grey
The Joker
Jubilee
Kang the Conqueror
Karate Kid
KGBeast
Kid Flash/Impulse (Bart Allen)
Killer Croc
Kilowog
Kingpin
Lady Deathstrike
Lady Shiva
Lex Luthor
Live Wire
Lizard
Longshot
Luke Cage
Madelyne Pryor
Magik
Magma
Mandarin
Metallo
Metamorpho
Mimic (Exiles)
Moondragon
Moon Knight
Morbius
Morlun
Mr. Fantastic
Mr. Freeze
Mr. Sinister
Multiple Man
Mysterio
Mystique
Namor
Namorita
Nightcrawler
Nightwing
Northstar
Obsidian
Omega Red
Overt-kill
Parasite
Plastic Man
Poison Ivy
Puck
Psylocke
The Punisher
Pyro
Quicksilver
Radioactive Man
Ra's Al Ghul
Raven
Red Skull
Red Tornado
Rhino
Robin (Tim Drake)
Rogue - Drafted
Sabretooth
Sandman
Sasquatch
Scarecrow
Shocker
Scorpion
Sentinel (Mutant-hunting robot)
Shadowcat
Siryn
Solomon Grundy
Spider-Man
Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew)
Starfire
Stargirl
Steel
Storm
Strong Guy
Stryfe
Sunfire
Sunspot
Super Boy
Taskmaster
Temugin
The Thing
Thunderbird
Toad
Toxin
Ultra-boy
Venom
Vindicator
Violater
Vision
Warbird
War Machine
Witchblade
Wolverine
Wonder Girl

"Power"

Apocalypse
Beta Ray Bill
Bizzaro
Black Adam
Captain Atom
Captain Marvel
Cassandra Nova Xavier
Champion of the Universe
Darkseid
Despero
Doomsday
Drax the Destroyer
Dr. Fate
Etrigan, the Demon
Exodus
Firelord
Firestorm
The Flash (Wally West)
The Flash (Barry Allen)
General Zod
Gladiator
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
The Hulk (specify which incarnation)
Hyperion
Juggernaut
Kalibak
Lobo
Loki
Maestro
Magneto
Martian Manhunter
Mr. Majestic
Mongul
Nimrod
Onslaught
Orion
Phoenix (Rachel Summers)
Power Girl
Professor X
Sentinel (Alan Scott)
She-Hulk
Silver Surfer
Sinestro
Spawn (Hellspawn)
Supergirl
Superman
Super Skrull
Terrax
Thor - Drafted
Ultron
Wonder Man
Wonder Woman
Zoom

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The Battles - STEP 1 (The Prep)

Once all players have their teams and the draft is complete, it's time for the first round of battles to begin. How I structure the order of the battles (which player fights who and in what order) will be determined by how many players we get. If we get a large number I may split the players into 2 conferences. If we get a small number I may just do a simple tournament. I'll post the set-up once we get to that point.

HOWEVER, no matter how the overall game is structured, the way an individual round is played will remain the same. Two players will randomly be assigned to match-up against each other. The players teams will fight against each other in a series of individual battles. To prepare for the battle, you submit a PM to the commissioner (me) detailing the order you want your team to fight in, and some other strategies.

Let's say you're a player and you have the following team:

1. Cyclops
2. X-Man
3. Professor X
4. Phoenix
5. Bishop
6. Cannonball
7. Jean Grey
8. Havok

You would submit a PM to me with your team listed just like that, numbered 1 through 8. You can put the characters in whatever order you like. Once the battle starts up, whoever you placed at spot 1 will go up against whoever your opponent placed at spot 1, and so forth.

OPTIONAL STRATEGIES:

Prep Time - You can give Prep Time to any two characters on your team who were drafted from the normal list. You may ONLY give prep time to normal characters, and you may ONLY prep two characters total. Prep time essentially means that the judges will assume that character knew who he would be facing against and had 24 hours to prepare. The judges will determine how the prep time was used. It could be used to devise some sort of device or trap, or to hone a magical spell, anything that makes sense given the character. To give prep time to a character, put (Prepared) next to their name in your battle PM.

Trumping - Trumping means that you are assigning two characters to fight together. So let's say you had Cyclops at slot 2, and Havok at slot 8, and you decide to trump the characters. Now, when match number 2 is called, you will be sending out BOTH Cyclops and Havok against whoever the other player put at slot 2. However, there is a down-side. When slot 8 is called, you'll be sending out no one, and whoever the other player had at slot 8 will automatically win. This is called an "auto-loss."

So if you choose to employ these two strategies and also randomized your slot choices a bit, here's what your PM could look like:


Quote
1. X-Man
2. Cyclops (Trumped with Havok)
3. Professor X (Prepared)
4. Bishop (Prepared)
5. Phoenix
6. Cannonball
7. Jean Grey
8. Havok (Trumped with Cyclops)

Can you give prep time to a character who is being trumped? Yes.

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The Battles - STEP 2 (The Pimping)

Ok, so all the players have sent in their prep lists. It's time for the Round to begin. In a ROUND, all of the available players will be randomly matched up against one other player to BATTLE. A BATTLE is the series of individual contests between the characters on either players team, called MATCHES.

At the beginning of the round, the GM will post the Battles and the first set of Matches. For example:

Quote
ROUND 1 (Match 1)
--------------------------------

BATTLE - Bob vs. Steve
Match 1 - Superman vs. Batman (Prepared): Can the Great Detective outwit the man of Steel?

BATTLE - Joe vs. Tom
Match 1 - Captain America vs. Thor: Will Cap's Mighty Shield be enough to defend against the power of Thor?

And so forth.

Now comes the fun part. Once the GM has posted, up to 48 hours will be given for all of the players to comment on the various matches by posting in the topic. "Dude, Superman would totally beat the crap out of Batman, lol he has super strength, game over." "No way man, Batman is smart as hell, he'd have anti-Superman gas in his utility belt!" This is called pimping. You pimp your character by arguing why he would win. You can also pimp characters in battles you're not involved in. Argue in any form you like, even dig up quotes from comic books and get pictures from the internet showing that you're right (Be a big nerd, c'mon.)

Once the Commissioner has determined enough Pimping has gone on, or 48 hours have passed, its time for the results.

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The Battles - STEP 3 (The Outcome)

All 3 judges will post the outcomes of all ongoing matches, including who won, and a brief summary of how they think the battle would have gone.
*Judges must post results within 72 hours of the conclusion of each matchup*
Determining who would win any particular match is a totally subjective thing, and rests completely in the hands of the judges. They may be swayed by the arguments you've made while pimping. They may not. 2/3 judges scoring the match your way earns you the victory.

Here's some ground rules the judges will follow:

1. Unless your character was given prep-time, it will be assumed that this is just a random encounter neither character saw coming. They just meet, piss each other off, and fight. If the characters have met before, they may know a bit about how each other's powers work and thus be able to exploit it. However, if they've never met, it will be assumed they have little prior knowledge of each other (excepting things which are generally thought of as common knowledge: You could argue that EVERYBODY knows Superman's weakness is Kryptonite). If you have a case to make about how these circumstances apply, make it during pimping.

2. When thinking about the battle, the judges will use the version of the character they see in their minds-eye. If you're a judge, and to you, Batman is the goofy Adam West from the 60's TV Show, he's the one you're assuming is fighting. If the Batman you know is the dark, brooding, genius mastermind seen in recent justice league comics, that's the Batman you'll assume is fighting. Many of these characters are really long-standing and have been portrayed various ways. Feel free to pimp a certain portrayal of the character to the judges.

3. If a Judge has very limited knowledge of a certain character, they will be expected to do a modest amount of research and at least google the character and look him up in some comic-book databases or the like. Also, if during the pimping phase one of the players mentions something you didn't know about (I never knew the Flash had that power), don't completely ignore it, consider weighing it in your decision. Judges should try to be fair, but ultimately it's a subjective thing.

4. Prep time will be used in a way that makes sense given the character. If he's a magician, he'll probably put together some spells. If he's an evil mad scientist, he'll probably build some kind of death ray. How much knowledge regarding his opponents weaknesses he will gain from prep time is a subjective matter and depends upon the character and the resources he's assumed to have.

Obviously, the judges will have some biases. Hopefully the fact that there is more than one judge will counter-act this. If not, oh well. 

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The Battles - STEP 3 (Finishing up the Round)

Ok, so the first batch of matches have been pimped and judged. Now, the players will continue squaring off against the player they were randomly matched up against for this BATTLE. Match 2 will be played, etc, all the way up to the players playing match 8. Which ever player won the most matches, wins the Battle.

TIES

If the players have 4 wins a piece, the tie-breaker will be an all-out brawl between both players entire teams. All 8 from player 1 vs. all 8 from player 2. The tie-breaker is pimped for up to 48 hours and then judged, just like a normal match.

So....that's basically it. Now you move on to the next round. This time, Joe might go up against Bob, or etc. As I said, the overall structure and how many rounds there will be will be described later once I know how many players we have
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puddin Offline
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2009, 10:39:27 pm »

If indiana jones was on that list i would play
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i cant really blame smokaz i mean playing against puddin is like trying to fight off breast cancer. You might win and do it and be a bad ass but you'll feel sick and mutilated forever.

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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 08:39:25 am »

Arrg soo much text

If only there was a summarizerman to rescue us.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2009, 09:22:42 am »

yeah its really long winded
basically you pick 25 people from one to 20 in most important area you can list as many powercharacters as you want but you can only have a maximum of 3. send your list to thegame operator and when he has all list he gives each person a turn going first to see who gets each person. this is needed because obviously some characters will be picked by several people.
once teams are picked you send the order your team will be in and if any will be double teaming.
then the rounds begin and you have 24 hours to say how your guy(s) would win the fight. at the end of 24 hours judges start posting how they feel about it. when you post about your character you post your image of him. If you think batman could beat thor then go ahead and say it but you are trying to convince the judges.
person with the most victorys at the end of the game wins.
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bristiler Offline
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2009, 09:48:52 am »

lol it was just to see if anyone was interested.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2009, 12:02:47 pm »

wow...too, muuuch reeeadiiiing.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2009, 12:49:07 pm »

yeah its a whole lot of words for a really eazy process.just thought id try to bring something fun and entertaining to the forums. indiana jones would suck n this game.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2009, 12:53:51 pm »

sounds like fun, though im still confused, would this mean a game would take several days  to get all the characters from 1-8 done? Or would you shove them all up at the same time?
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2009, 01:40:57 pm »

team pciking would take as long as it took to get 8 players, then maybe 30mins after the last ones done teams would be posted. the game itself would take more than a couple days since everyone faces everyone.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2009, 05:32:29 pm »

yeah its a whole lot of words for a really eazy process.just thought id try to bring something fun and entertaining to the forums. indiana jones would suck n this game.

Blasphemy!!!!

Blasphemy i say!!!!!

Indiana Jones Defeted the Nazi Army , The circus goons, And found the holy grail, alone with KICKED ALIEN ASS.  What has superman done?  OR batman?

Superman... Could not defeat 1 manin lex luther.. And batman let joker live... Sigh....  At least Iniana kills in Styles... Driving a tank off a cliff.... Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2009, 07:47:13 pm »

do you think in a fight he would just be able to shoot superman and that be it?Huh?? ironmans armor wouldnt be dented, silver surfer would just consume it thor is a god and wouldnt die to a man with a revolvor..... during the day he might have a chance MAYbe against batman but not at night.the punisher is more hardcore than him for that matter the flash, cyclops,dr octapuse thing guy, and the guy with the big head are all more powerful than indiana jones.... seriously really cool guy when facing hundreds of idiots with swords, another thing facing indisctrucatbably people/// infact you have almost started the game by debating with me whether or not indiana jones is strong enough to compete or not..... MUHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA MY PLAN IS SUCEEEDING
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2009, 09:18:09 pm »

honestly i could care less, I just miss indiana jones and having beating hearts ripped out and set on fire in the hand
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