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Author Topic: Hotchkiss command tank?  (Read 7194 times)
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SX23 Offline
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« on: November 22, 2009, 11:44:45 am »

Well, I don't know if it's a bug or intended, but the fact that you actually need to trigger the command ability is kinda weird, and also very weak. I mean, we pay first 50pps for the hotch, and then 120 fu for it instead of the normal 50, and then, we need to trigger the ability and it got a really long cooldown (300 secs I think) and it's only working for 20 secs.
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 11:46:58 am »

Its not very weak, it gives you half the cooldown + reload and a +15 range bonus ontop. (which also works on friendly tanks.)

Its basically a "MakeAxisTanksRapesauce-button"

The HCT also has a -15% received accuracy buff compared to the normal hotchkiss.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 12:22:21 pm »

yeah man those things are awesome, especially if you have scopes on your tanks, good lord.
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SX23 Offline
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 12:25:17 pm »

I do agree that the bonus is quite good, but still, waiting 300 secs for a bonus you paid for is kinda long. And I mean, do you wait for you command tank bonus?
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2009, 12:48:12 pm »

take two Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2009, 12:50:45 pm »

when its that good of a bonus, yeah you should probably have to wait. especially on something like armor.

CCT i believe only 25% faster reload and cooldown, +2 range,  and i think the HCT has bigger range possibly? it also has a gun, CCT only has flank speed to deal with enemies.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2009, 12:59:00 pm »

Wait if you get 2 HCTs and activate both at once it stacks?
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2009, 01:03:34 pm »

no he's saying get two so you don't have to wait so long for the cool down. if it did stack i though i think id be considered a bug.
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2009, 01:06:19 pm »

I know, Im just curious because if it does then thats fucked up.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2009, 01:45:53 pm »

naah  o  dont  think it stacks.
but  two  to   awoid  the  cooldown.
spotting  scopes panther + hct Cheesy
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SX23 Offline
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2009, 02:05:09 pm »

I know the command tank is a little weaker, but still you dont pay 50pps for it...
I mean, you pay for that thing, so it would be normal that's it better than the none-doctrinal things.
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2009, 02:08:05 pm »

i  paid , and  dont  regret  a  single pp .
its  good   for  taking   infantry ,  it gives  buffs  to your and  your teammate  tanks(ever  saw  a KT  buffed  with it?) and  also    with its LOS its a good  recon  unit ...
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2009, 02:25:06 pm »

Well let's see, LT's and captains have to wait 300+_ seconds for thier foo and victor target and you're actually paying Munition for that ability. The Hotch Cmd Tank is so awesome. That ability is just sick, put it next to a blitzed out p4 and its just sick, so please dont even go there, plus, it's free for god sakes, you dont have to buy it with munitions, you buy the tank, you get it, plus its way better than the cct and more survivable cuz it can fire its gun! The cct just sits there and fires its coaxial, which btw does absolutely nothing
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2009, 02:51:29 am »

You can drive over infantry with CCT
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2009, 08:43:24 am »

You can drive over infantry with CCT

you can drive over infantry with any tank, whats your point? I'm not buying th cct for its infantry crushing ability, i'm using it to buff my tank.
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2009, 08:50:13 am »

Hotchkinss command tank aura coupled with vehicle cover makes allies sad panda ~2/5 shoots aimed at buffed tanks sitting in cover miss. If you use hetzers which have even more incoming accuracy mods it gets even better.
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2009, 01:47:09 pm »

at least one  is a must  have!
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2009, 01:51:09 pm »

or couple them with jagds, its just sick! tbh, i dont mind the accuracy or rate of fire increase but the range increase is just sick, especially since they have accuracy buffs for the tanks already so it then makes them infantry snipers.

Just as a side note...the accuracy buffs that the PE tanks get for Tank Hunters should only be applies vs vehicles and tanks if possible and not include infantry. Jagds getting 20+ kills off infantry is just ridiculous, ditto Hetzers.
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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2009, 02:38:33 pm »

the cooldown is a must with the already powerful axis heavy tanks
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2009, 12:47:17 am »

things are amazing.  I thought they would suck, so I waited to get them till way late in my building my tank hunter company, but they kick ass.
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