LeoPhone
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« on: May 08, 2010, 04:05:55 am » |
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currently it is very easy to get your entire army to vet 3.
only a few units like the tigers are still hard to get to vetted.
I suggest: Make it harder to get units to vet 3 (increase XP requirements). you can be proud once you get even somthing like a tommy squad to vet 3.
in return, every vet 3 unit will get some new ability or changed ability to make it better vs what it already kills. the tommy squad for instance, could get a bit more range on their button ability, or the rifle nade smoke becomes bigger.
really special units like the KT could get something new: give it the supression fire ability the churchill has.
however, there is one thing what is the most important to make this change work:
Vetted units will have their pool cost increased, which will make sure there will be no vet 3 spam companies anymore. because if you would want that, you either have to reform your battalion in a really special way or just pay a lot of PPs every time you play.
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badmorning01
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2010, 04:48:51 am » |
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I have never had a vet 3 unit. It isn't easy to me. ;p
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2010, 04:51:47 am » |
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I have never had a vet 3 unit. It isn't easy to me. ;p
but you did fight opponents who had armies made completely of vetted units right? its currently more like having vet on every unit is normal, and having no vet on em special.
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badmorning01
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2010, 04:52:50 am » |
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True. Maybe a cap on the amount of vetted unit you can have? Or a cap on the amount of SP you spent on vetting them. Same difference.
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Armfelt
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2010, 05:17:25 am » |
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Vet hunting would be really cruel for some. No names.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2010, 05:27:53 am » |
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Make it harder to get units to vet 3 (increase XP requirements). +1 It's definitely too easy at the moment. I don't really agree with the extra abilities, I'd prefer the devs to be working on current issues before adding anything new!
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Duckordie
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2010, 05:57:09 am » |
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What? Make vet 3 better?
How will that help new players?
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2010, 05:58:26 am » |
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i suggest to nerf vet. its op
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2010, 06:03:21 am » |
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What? Make vet 3 better?
How will that help new players?
the extra pool costs and the extra XP requirements will make sure you wont see that much anymore. people will be rewarded again of getting hans and his squad members to veterancy - instead of having 100 Hanses who all mean nothing to the fuhrer.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2010, 06:11:06 am » |
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What? Make vet 3 better?
How will that help new players?
the extra pool costs and the extra XP requirements will make sure you wont see that much anymore. people will be rewarded again of getting hans and his squad members to veterancy - instead of having 100 Hanses who all mean nothing to the fuhrer. Quite an interesting Idea actually Leo. The availability pools will need a dramatic change (Made larger) so that say, a vet 2 (at +1 pool) and vet 3 (at +2 pool) dont kill the army builds, but do make sense.
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Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
That's like offering Beer to fuck the fat chick. It will work for a while, but it's not gonna last. Not only that, but there is zero motivation for the Fat chick to loose weight.
Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2010, 06:11:33 am » |
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these would be changes in the wrong direction. fail!
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sheffer
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2010, 06:26:16 am » |
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Make it harder to get units to vet 3 (increase XP requirements). in return, every vet 3 unit will get some new ability Vetted units will have their pool cost increased
+1 I think it will be good balancing, vet3 hordes are terrible because of their effectiveness. And it will be cool to decrease start pop to 23 for prevent double tank start
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2010, 08:33:04 am » |
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double US croc, double IST mr sheffer? pretty sure 23 pop wouldnt prevent that lol
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2010, 08:52:54 am » |
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double US croc, double IST mr sheffer? pretty sure 23 pop wouldnt prevent that lol they are countered by a puma or a m10
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2010, 09:00:27 am » |
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i kill m10s/hellcats with 2 ISTs with ease.
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2010, 09:09:18 am » |
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Vet hunting would be really cruel for some. No names.
lol indeed Leo being number 1. I would even dare think why would you want this considering how fucking angry you get at losing a vet 2 unit lol
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Exactly.
There is only so many times you can slaughter Lt Apollo, Rocksitter, and Alwaysloseguy24 before you get bored and fall asleep.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2010, 09:21:48 am » |
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im growing up you fool. i used to smash my keyboard when something happened, now i just get mad at idiots who do it on purpose.
and you need to grow up too. take armfelt as example.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2010, 09:26:10 am » |
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I've learned that vet is expendable.
By doing so, I don't get demoralized in a game when I lose it, and I don't baby it so much.
I consider any vet I get to be a thing of pure luck and nothing more than a bonus.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2010, 09:29:16 am » |
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im growing up you fool. EIRR, now responsible for parenting as well. You're grounded, Leophone? Please go in your room? LOL
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sheffer
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2010, 09:34:43 am » |
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That's right hicks, and with growing of your skill numbers of vet units will grow in company. I always use my single vet3 rifles (with nades, stuky and bars) in start core, they can stand much more that vet0, and they do their job. But when i see start core from all vet3 rifles... and then next blob with vet3 rifles...lol dont know what to say Great example of vet are ATG's, with vet3 without any docs or APR they penetrate panther front without problems. My vet3 ATG with APR kill a 1\2 health KT in 4-5 shots in front in a game few days ago. P.S. is blobing a cradle of vet3 hordes? Really dont know, never played by blob
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