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deadbolt Offline
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« on: June 01, 2010, 08:07:26 am »

Don't you think 600 seconds (10 minutes) is a bit extreme for rifles as a cooldown ability?
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 08:22:23 am »

I have no idea.  I intentionally set it low to start, if it's underpowered, the recharge timer can be shortened.
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 08:26:21 am »

a 25 min game=you can only use it twice
although u can make a rifle squad take out 3 bazookas and shoot a halftrack then pop smoke
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 08:55:41 am »

Multiply that by around 20 squads and that means around 40 free grenade uses Roll Eyes.
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 09:02:36 am »

yeah,but since it doesnt slow...it's not that powerful...and you are probably gonna use it only once with every squad....
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sgMisten Offline
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 09:06:17 am »

AB have it on a 6 minute timer so you may be able to use it twice with them Shocked
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 09:09:03 am »

Multiply that by around 20 squads and that means around 40 free grenade uses Roll Eyes.

what? free? you dont have to pay munitions for this ability?
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 09:11:15 am »

Uh no? Did you not see that its in the passives tree?
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 09:29:39 am »

See, I just read it up too: it's free

And holy #@(! it is epic.

Just spam vanilla riflemen + AB shit: +25% health, 1 member is super health (+20 * 25% = +25 health on squad leader = 60*125% = 75+25 = 100 HP is higher than ANY unit in the game (epic!)

and free AT / anti infantry / anti building (while not possible to use always)

is EPIC!
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2010, 10:09:05 am »

Assault grenades for blitzkrieg is a perfect counter.
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SaintPauli Offline
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2010, 10:37:15 am »

LOL this ability is just as balanced as free assault grenades + free double firing panzerfaust + free smoke…    Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 10:47:33 am »

LOL this ability is just as balanced as free assault grenades + free double firing panzerfaust + free smoke…    Roll Eyes

Yeah, it sure isn't balanced.

I watched that xfire deminstration movie where you needed 3 uses of the ability to down a fucking priest. Coupled with the random misses and scatter of nades/zooks, it should probably take more than to do the same job with muni bought weapons.

I call OP tbfh...
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 10:55:38 am »

T3h most epic start ever:

2 RR AB, 2 AB riflemen, hmg and medics (+6 pop remember?)

the epic armor, high health, epic abilities and healing will make it unstoppable.
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pqumsieh Offline
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2010, 10:57:58 am »

its fine. you are for going a passive buff in replacement of an on use buff. Its important to note that those bazookas have had their damage reduced and from what gamesguy has noted in the balance advice forums the idea was to make 1 use equal to the damage/utility provided by 1 use of a bazooka/pineapple. In other words, although three bazookas are fired, the damage they produce is roughly that of 1 bazooka. He simply split it to make it more esthetically pleasing.

Its not at all OP in my opinion. It provides utility instead of a straight passive buff. Gamesguy, maybe put it on a 2 use w/ a lower cooldown. That should balance it out fairly well.

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2010, 11:09:30 am »

T3h most epic start ever:

2 RR AB, 2 AB riflemen, hmg and medics (+6 pop remember?)

the epic armor, high health, epic abilities and healing will make it unstoppable.

Oh im sure my Terror Grenadiers can stop them. And I dont want to destroy your dreams but the +6 Pop ability is not in the same tree as Hit 'n Run.  Wink

Also to note is that the pineapple/zook damage is nerfed with this ability.
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gamesguy2 Offline
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2010, 11:28:29 am »

The zooks it fires are half damage, the grenades thrown are the same as assault grenades, but instead of throwing 9, it only throws 2 and occasionally 4.
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2010, 11:32:06 am »

Raid (+6pop) is still a massively beneficial unlock. you can do anything with it.
double sherman+ 2 flamers or an atg and a flamer
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2010, 11:38:02 am »

Raid (+6pop) is still a massively beneficial unlock. you can do anything with it.
double sherman+ 2 flamers or an atg and a flamer

Ok? So?
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2010, 12:03:55 pm »

Raid (+6pop) is still a massively beneficial unlock. you can do anything with it.
double sherman+ 2 flamers or an atg and a flamer

Ok? So?

exactly and its only for the AB player, there are wehr, brit and pe abilities that are teamwide which imo are more beneficial than a +6 pop boost for one player.
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2010, 02:20:54 am »

3 croc start will be funny tbfh.
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