Jodomar
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« on: June 05, 2010, 04:38:51 pm » |
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Why is it that the tiger gets all these super buffs plus extra repairs and the pershing only gets hvap rounds which nerfs its anit inf ability? Not only that but you can't get obm if you have hvap. So you don't get the extra repair if you take hvap and your anti-inf gets gimped. I think the pershing needs some more love in the way of buffs and I also think that obm should be moved to the bottom tier 3.
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2010, 04:41:30 pm » |
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HVAP is great. It will beat a Heat round tiger 100% of the time.
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2010, 04:50:18 pm » |
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Actually Pershing can get OBM + Observation (Or field repairs) + 15% faster speed bonus and receives a -20% turret rotation, -15% reload bonus with NGV. Add experienced loaders to that for an added short duration reload speed buff and you've got yourself an awesome Pershing.
I don't see how that's significantly less amazing than what the Tiger can get its hands on.
(Don't forget you pay a LOT for the second repair kit where as OBM and Field Repairs are free)
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| rifle87654
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2010, 06:33:34 pm » |
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And the Pershing has a 90mm gun.
Bigger than the Tiger's 88.
So should have some advantage.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2010, 06:35:37 pm » |
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you know rifle, in a game you can make a '20mm' gun better than a '120mm' gun.
but yeah the tigers' gun is worse because of its moving accuracy
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| panzerman
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2010, 06:37:07 pm » |
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and it drives like a panther but is stronger than a panther it is really good vs tanks and good vs inf where as tiger is more really good vs inf than armour though it can be good at that 2.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2010, 06:50:56 pm » |
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but the panther was more made to be a panther/p4/stug killer. 1v1 a tiger beats a pershing because of health and the 88 has more penetration.
and rifle, the 88mm on a tiger had a longer barrel than the Pershing, which meant that the Tiger's round would have more velocity, thus more penetrating power, it doesn't matter the size of the round as much as the velocity. You can make a 37mm round penetrate tiger armor if it's going fast enough.
Tiger had a 56 caliber muzzle and the pershing a 53. KT had a 71 caliber by comparison...
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« Last Edit: June 05, 2010, 06:54:14 pm by Tymathee »
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"I want proof!"
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"Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2010, 07:09:47 pm » |
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but the panther was more made to be a panther/p4/stug killer. 1v1 a tiger beats a pershing because of health and the 88 has more penetration.
you need to learn 1 thing. mirrormatches dont say ANYTHING |
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Demon767
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2010, 07:15:07 pm » |
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tell me if im wrong, im sure the panther has more penetrating power than the tigers 88mm due to higher velocity
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| rifle87654
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2010, 07:43:13 pm » |
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i thought it was the same
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Tymathee
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2010, 08:17:30 pm » |
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but the panther was more made to be a panther/p4/stug killer. 1v1 a tiger beats a pershing because of health and the 88 has more penetration.
you need to learn 1 thing. mirrormatches dont say ANYTHING I know in game things can be different, i'm saying what relic designed for the pershing to be. It's made to kill panthers on down. tell me if im wrong, im sure the panther has more penetrating power than the tigers 88mm due to higher velocity
it has the same as the tiger. Point blank, if a panther and pershing had the same amount of health, the panther would always win but because a pershing has 200 more health, that gives it at least a 2-3 shot advantage, in a 1v1 engagement a pershing comes out limping but it almost always wins. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2010, 08:28:11 pm » |
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talking about real life
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| panzerman
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2010, 09:05:45 pm » |
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yes in reality cause of the higher caliber the panther 75mm was better than the tiger I 88mm.
but in that it loses anti infantry efficiency. because velocity is 2 high and the he shell digs to far into the ground before exploding etc etc.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2010, 09:50:16 pm » |
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Jodomar are you trolling? Cuz the pershing is amazing with HVAP. Not to mention that HVAP turns hellcats into rapecats.
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No tits, but i will bake a cake then eat it in honour of Sir Condor The 3rd
fuck the pgren rifle, fucking dogshit weapon
My beautiful black pussy won
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| DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2010, 10:50:04 pm » |
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Seems fair to me. King tiger isnt really buffed much either. Keep the Men of War realism talk out of here before I 1 shot your sherman with a anti tank grenade, or charge your tiger I with a bazooka jeep (Who the fuck decided that the allies need a fucking bazooka jeep in men of war ......)
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2010, 10:55:03 pm » |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2010, 10:55:52 pm » |
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talking about real life
Yeah, in terms of gun. King Tiger > Panther > Pershing > Tiger |
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2010, 10:58:04 pm » |
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lol Aslong as its not 4 bazookas put together like in men of war then I guess im fine with it. |
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2010, 04:50:16 am » |
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lol 22 losses, what a noob. |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2010, 05:10:35 am » |
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this is a so called "buffed account"  |
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