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« on: August 02, 2010, 06:00:58 am » |
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Hi guys I think a problem with ranger\ab spam is that fireup makes them totally immune to suppression. http://picly.us/coh/Ability_Fire_Up.htmlSuppression = 0 Received Suppression x 0 Maximum Speed + 1 Sight Radius x 0.5 Make a Received Suppression = 0.5 or higher. Discuss. |
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 06:03:06 am » |
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Yeah, most fire has no effect at all.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2010, 06:07:18 am » |
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combine that with ab armour...
rangers are not such a problem as are ab...they can be stopped with tanks since zooks aint that strong...
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2010, 09:22:06 am » |
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your kidding right?
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 09:31:22 am » |
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I was unaware ranger spam was an issue.
As for AB, increase pool for AB Rifles and that solves it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2010, 09:42:07 am » |
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how can a higher AB Rifle Pool value solve problems with RR AB Ranger + Shermans or something?
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 11:07:25 am » |
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if they run at you, either back away and wait for them to exhaust or if they run away, see if they're running to help, if not, wait for them to exhaust, blast 'em. There's a serious downside, while they can fire up, they also cool down to half their effectiveness after its' over. Its more a "get outta dodge" ability than "im coming after you!" the problem with ab is more the doc abilities and the spam nature of a lot of players rather than ab themselves.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2010, 11:23:29 am » |
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if they run at you, either back away and wait for them to exhaust or if they run away, see if they're running to help, if not, wait for them to exhaust, blast 'em. There's a serious downside, while they can fire up, they also cool down to half their effectiveness after its' over. Its more a "get outta dodge" ability than "im coming after you!" the problem with ab is more the doc abilities and the spam nature of a lot of players rather than ab themselves.
yet, the spam tactic works perfectly. |
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2010, 11:53:01 am » |
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how can a higher AB Rifle Pool value solve problems with RR AB Ranger + Shermans or something?
RR AB + Shermans isn't the issue. It's the swarm of AB Bars and AB RR's. |
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2010, 02:04:31 pm » |
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Pool value isn't the issue with Ab rifles. It's the armor type and the access to specialty weapons. If they were just rifles they'd be easy to deal with. Things like the Mine placement affecting them for 15 munitions makes it dirt cheap to get mines everywhere.
The do everything a Riflemen can but better. Access to BAR's goes a long way then you add Stickies into the equation and they are just a porcupine of doom waiting to hurt you
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2010, 02:51:03 pm » |
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Well, I was thinking of things that wouldn't require RGD changes =p
Ideally you would remove the BAR and give them Garand's.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2010, 02:58:07 pm » |
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I can remove the BAR as an upgrade option in the SQL and no one can purchase it. Then I remove all upgrades with it and no one has it. It stays in the RGD's for the future just in case and removes BAR from AB rifles. Easy fix. If thats the direction we take or not is the question
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2010, 03:00:36 pm » |
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I say just remove fire up from rangers/airborne, the reason being is this is EIRR, not vCoH, if you fire up to rush an MG the MG can't just retreat and reinforce, it goes offmap. Fire up doesn't fit in EIRR at all tbh
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2010, 03:03:20 pm » |
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I say just remove fire up from rangers/airborne, the reason being is this is EIRR, not vCoH, if you fire up to rush an MG the MG can't just retreat and reinforce, it goes offmap. Fire up doesn't fit in EIRR at all tbh
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2010, 03:05:15 pm » |
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taking out fireup
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2010, 03:23:47 pm » |
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hey, not remove fireup, just remove total suppression immunity
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2010, 03:28:38 pm » |
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i also dont like that idea. leave it as it is
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2010, 03:31:08 pm » |
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i also dont like that idea. leave it as it is
So airborne can OMGWTFPWND. |
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2010, 03:33:46 pm » |
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airborne dont omgwtfpwn. its just the opposing players who dont know how to counter.
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2010, 03:35:37 pm » |
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airborne dont omgwtfpwn. its just the opposing players who dont know how to counter.
That is so wrong. |
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