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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2010, 04:25:31 pm »

Guys right now there isn't much use complaining about the doctrines, for reasons which will become apparent. Currently we are in limbo. So no reason to get heated about it
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2010, 04:36:41 pm »

AKA, no Dev =)
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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2010, 04:39:43 pm »

there's been what, 3 updatse in the last 2 weeks, i tink we're gettin back on track quit bein so pessimistic.
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Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2010, 06:58:17 pm »

I'd offer to code but I couldn't deal with the shenanigans.
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2010, 07:05:53 pm »

I've offered countless times to help and to no avail so meh. I guess I have to show I know what I'm doing and make a mini coh mod or somethin.
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2010, 07:13:24 pm »

VERDICT: Terror sniper stays EXACTLY the same for all eternity.
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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2010, 08:00:40 pm »

I seen the terror been used really well, I didn't think there was much of a problem I saw. Guess there Sad
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Although, I would lose the spammyness I get from Volks Sad
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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2010, 09:46:09 pm »

It would only be a logical fallacy if he said "It's not OP since X is also OP". Saying it is only tolerable by comparison isn't in itself a fallacy.

 I feel like the logic police around here lol.

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Thats not a fallacy, its simply admiting the relative nature of Overpowered.....

My idea is still the simplist imo, I kinda liked the idea of every faction getting a unique sniper, hence i would like to keep the sniper in some way, shape or form.
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« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2010, 04:21:02 pm »

Thats not a fallacy, its simply admiting the relative nature of Overpowered.....


 Yep Wini hit the nail on the head. Not a fallacy, but close! Can't throw the term "logical fallacy" around too loosely.

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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2010, 02:58:41 pm »

Thats not a fallacy, its simply admiting the relative nature of Overpowered.....

My idea is still the simplist imo, I kinda liked the idea of every faction getting a unique sniper, hence i would like to keep the sniper in some way, shape or form.
It would only be admiting the relative nature of Overpowered if we literally had just those two units to balance each other against.
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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2010, 04:51:28 pm »

Thats not a fallacy, its simply admiting the relative nature of Overpowered.....

My idea is still the simplist imo, I kinda liked the idea of every faction getting a unique sniper, hence i would like to keep the sniper in some way, shape or form.

personally, dont think thats possible. There's only so much u can do to a sniper before he's not a sniper anymore

and i propose changing the title of the Terror Sniper ot the Terror Markman.
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2010, 05:00:38 pm »

Give him a flamethrower underbarrel and a jetpack
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2010, 06:45:51 pm »

I use two of these snipers, i'd say they're MUCH more powerful than regular snipers. You must be using them wrong. The fact that these guys suppress/pin enemy infantry from so far away is ridiculously powerful, all you need to do is get one of these guys to hit, then close in with flamer pio's, mp40's or just scare with p4's (Hell, nebelwerfers and focus fire mg42's do the trick too). Having one of these on the field at all times stops rangers/ab. They probably aren't AS useful if they're with any t4 other than Heavy Support due to the nature of the buffs, but definitely don't need a price change. This unit is about as "terror" as terror gets.

Out of 23 shots, I got 3 kills. No surpression from any of the shots.

Replay or it didn't happen.
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2010, 07:28:00 pm »

I use two of these snipers, i'd say they're MUCH more powerful than regular snipers. You must be using them wrong. The fact that these guys suppress/pin enemy infantry from so far away is ridiculously powerful, all you need to do is get one of these guys to hit, then close in with flamer pio's, mp40's or just scare with p4's (Hell, nebelwerfers and focus fire mg42's do the trick too). Having one of these on the field at all times stops rangers/ab. They probably aren't AS useful if they're with any t4 other than Heavy Support due to the nature of the buffs, but definitely don't need a price change. This unit is about as "terror" as terror gets.

Replay or it didn't happen.

nice bottom quote

supah terror sniper suppressing ranger-ab squads in 1 hit, get real>

Thats just lies out your ass you cct crushing mofo
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2010, 07:33:53 pm »

I know in dawn of war 2 Snipers can supress Better than an MG can.. but I mean... thats... "fiction"? but snipers supressing ?!?!? I can understand the whole nature of OMG RUN OUT OF THE WAY!  MAybe what terror should do is cause a dispersion of units... cause the units to seek cover... Huh Bu ti believe all snipers do that.. Nothing truely fancy about a sniper besides its non detection.
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2010, 07:45:17 pm »

In vcoh a sniper or tank hit causes the squad to disperse and limits their continual movement
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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2010, 08:22:51 pm »

In vcoh a sniper or tank hit causes the squad to disperse and limits their continual movement

Which is realistic...
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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2010, 09:19:39 pm »

Gameplay > Realism!

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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2010, 03:27:58 am »

Fun gameplay > any sort of realism
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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2010, 05:04:11 am »

Its really not a problem, you cant replicate it at will or rely on it, it is nice however when a p4 shot slows down a charging rifle

I believe its related to squad AI which is mostly turned off for omg
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