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nugnugx Offline
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« on: December 15, 2010, 09:33:38 am »

Should doctrines be visible near the nick in lobby ?  ( like :  Blitz, SE , Def etc)
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NightRain Offline
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 10:09:08 am »

Player "Rofl" (AB)

Axis players head to menu and buy Ostwinds and LMG grens and tons of paks to counter AB RR + Sherman Croc spam
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 10:43:39 am »

and the problem with that would be? at least you'd know what you're getting into
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 10:47:51 am »

It would require people to not run with just spamming their doctrine units all over the place....

Problem being, some Doctrines buff a whole lot more stuff than others.
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nugnugx Offline
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 10:50:19 am »

Player "Rofl" (AB)

Axis players head to menu and buy Ostwinds and LMG grens and tons of paks to counter AB RR + Sherman Croc spam

i see no problem with this

other player is armor with pershes ,   he will own ostwinds and lmg
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 10:57:04 am »

with "spam alarm" situation its better to know what u got.
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2010, 11:07:48 am »

with "spam alarm" situation its better to know what u got.

spam alarm would be pretty damn sweet tbh. a number next to each player that shows how much pp hes oversupplied.
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2010, 11:32:32 am »

I find it interesting that changing your company around just to counter one guy is an acceptable tactic here, whereas in a wargame if you do that you're going to get punched in the dick. A pretty big contrast, and I'm not sure what causes the big difference in attitude towards army building.
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2010, 11:38:54 am »

spam alarm would be pretty damn sweet tbh. a number next to each player that shows how much pp hes oversupplied.

You do realise that when people run spam... it is usually within the limits of the "Soft Cap"/Pool right?

with "spam alarm" situation its better to know what u got.

Would be nice to simply say which unit he has the MOST of. (i.e. 30x Rifles lol)
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2010, 11:39:35 am »

In most Wargames you are technically supposed to know the scenario, and what army the opponent is taking before you make a list.

So for 40k, you know you are attacking IG with your SM playing Planetfall, then you build the list.

For Flames of War, you know you are defending on Hold the Line with American Infantry vs German Panzergrenadiers, then make your list.

It just happens that in most scenarios for 40k, everything is already cheesed out to hell so it doesn't matter, and the people that do worry about it will whine when they run into an optimized list.
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 11:40:30 am »


Would be nice to simply say which unit he has the MOST of. (i.e. 30x Rifles lol)

6 ab snipers but 7 riflesquads and it shows the riflesquads.
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2010, 11:44:12 am »

Cloud, that would be completely useless because you will always have more basic infantry than you will have of any one other thing.
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cloud234 Offline
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2010, 12:04:36 pm »

6 ab snipers but 7 riflesquads and it shows the riflesquads.

Okay just show people's pool values then?
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2010, 12:06:12 pm »

Pool values doesn't sound like too bad of an idea. You could easily tell when someone was doing something silly like 15+ M8 spam.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2010, 04:06:06 am »

if your going to do that why not just let people see eachothers companies...then you would get people constantly changing their builds untill 1 side gives up and just RTL'd.
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2010, 06:33:58 am »

Will be a very handy when a blitz doct comes in and i can witch to my armour doc to counter Tigers....

I say its a good idea, purly so you know what your getting yourself into and what you can roughly expect from the enemy.
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2010, 06:45:02 am »

also it was already present in old EIR that you could see enemy doctrine
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2010, 07:00:17 pm »

I find it interesting that changing your company around just to counter one guy is an acceptable tactic here, whereas in a wargame if you do that you're going to get punched in the dick. A pretty big contrast, and I'm not sure what causes the big difference in attitude towards army building.
HAHAHAHA!  Good analogy - Id punch someone in the dick if they changed their army cos they knew what I had ;p

Although, in saying that - what happens if they went Support unit heavy (as Airborne) - and had heaps of AT etc?

Would be a funny double bluff.
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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2010, 07:11:09 pm »

I would agree tho with the "no swapping to counter the builds"

I wouldnt except that in a game of tabletop Warhammer, i wouldnt do it here.
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2010, 07:21:42 pm »

spam alarm would be pretty damn sweet tbh. a number next to each player that shows how much pp hes oversupplied.

I'm not sure if I've ever told you this guys, but none of my companies that I ever made in the supply pool system we have now have been oversupplied by even 1 PP.

Yet, I'm still called a spammer.

Gotta loves it.
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