smurfORnot
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« on: February 01, 2011, 12:06:26 am » |
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ok,so it works when you smoke in front on or on mg. How is it with at guns/tanks? If I smoke at gun,or in front of at gun does he miss vehichles and does my army miss him more? same with tanks,how much does it help if I smoke repairing or retreating tank? and does tank have to be in smoke,or does it work also if he is behind smoke?
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Tymathee
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2011, 12:48:08 am » |
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25% base accuracy. (where open cover is 100% of the guns accuracy, in smoke its 25% of the guns accuracy)
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2011, 05:59:48 am » |
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CoH has always said anything passing through smoke but I don't buy that. I always drop smoke on shit I want to stay alive. It never seems to work otherwise.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2011, 06:00:41 am » |
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It is definitely THROUGH smoke lol . |
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Demon767
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2011, 06:32:33 am » |
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CoH has always said anything passing through smoke but I don't buy that. I always drop smoke on shit I want to stay alive. It never seems to work otherwise.
sherman smoke and dont move. come back to me.. come back to me with the results |
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2011, 06:38:44 am » |
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yep its through smoke and as this video of sturmtruppen (the founder of the coh-stats site back in old days) says it should remove all penetretion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5lpP19ndFYbut i doubt it because then smoking airbornes with recoiless would fail i personally use smoke to break suppression especially in combination with aoe weapons (e.g. flamer) because i don't use units with i win gay fireup button |
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 06:43:44 am » |
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sherman smoke and dont move. come back to me.. come back to me with the results
Sherman smoke never works Demon. AT weapons don't scatter enough. Sherman Smoke is for avoiding MAYBE Panzerschreks at long range. |
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 08:34:46 am » |
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I will test smoke in 1v1 to see results,it's kinda dangerous to test it in game if it fails |
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 01:13:51 pm » |
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Sherman smoke never works Demon. AT weapons don't scatter enough. Sherman Smoke is for avoiding MAYBE Panzerschreks at long range.
Sorry brn, thats just wrong. Sherman smoke gives you enough of a chance to live, pop it and back the fuck up. It has saved so many of my tanks. Nightrain saw me save 2 shermans, 1 vet 1, and a vet 2 (saved it twice) from certain death with smoke |
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AmPM
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 01:24:50 pm » |
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It's actually really good for escaping from other tanks.
Also, you can use the Sherman as a smoke platform for infantry, move up, pop smoke, move infantry up under cover.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 01:37:34 pm » |
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i use the smoke from command tanks with my crocks but i am not sure that it works for i was in a "slugging" match with 2 marders in the background while i was roasting some wolks but not a single shot missed by that damm marder out of 6 shots and all penetraited and hit, but i have used the croc to toast some 88s on the other hand for when you pop the smoke in the path you want to take you can just roll like nothing happend while the 88 misses every shot.
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2011, 01:59:27 pm » |
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It's because of the scatter angle on the weapon, the Marder has very low scatter, like an ATG or RR.
Tanks, 88, zooks, schreks, etc, have a higher scatter, so when they roll a "miss" they might actually miss.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2011, 02:32:15 pm » |
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is it not supose to bounce when it "misses"?
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2011, 02:39:03 pm » |
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is it not supose to bounce when it "misses"?
No, if a shot rolls a hit, then the shot will hit it's target 100% of the time, it will do loop de loops and home in on it's target until it strikes it. If you roll a "miss" then the projectile goes on a trajectory dictated by it's scatter and it just goes into that direction till it hits something. (ground, wall, building, tank, etc.) If it hits a unit, then it still has a chance to penetrate the target as if you had normally rolled a hit anyways. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2011, 02:47:47 pm » |
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so the smoke is useless against marders then?
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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2011, 03:37:14 pm » |
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not really but pretty much lol.
smoke is great for infantry though.
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2011, 03:47:44 pm » |
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lol guys thats what i meant i was being sarcastic that projectiles have to pass through enough so it scatters the projectile, you cant just sit in smoke and it will be calculated that the target is in smoke
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2011, 03:50:55 pm » |
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ah ok so i should not be inside the smoke?
so i should rather make a line of smoke infront of the 88 instead a path towards it?
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2011, 06:29:35 am » |
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ah ok so i should not be inside the smoke?
so i should rather make a line of smoke infront of the 88 instead a path towards it?
the 88mm have a very small scatter. smoke is not very effective against it. |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2011, 10:41:22 am » |
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then why dose the 88 allways miss then when i make a road of smoke towards the 88?
did they change it in the last 2 days or something?
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