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[Demon767]

One step at a time bitches. good changelog.

[EIRRMod]

Aren't you the goddamn lead developer? YOU RUN THIS SHIT.

Its called delegation, if you want me to do it all, no probs - EIR:R will be done some time next century hahahahaha

[WildZontar]

Its called delegation, if you want me to do it all, no probs - EIR:R will be done some time next century hahahahaha

No, I don't want you to do it alone, but being the Lead Developer would most likely have you being able to check over the stat changes so you know what's happening to EiR:R, no? Also allowing you to change things so you can see whats clearly balanced/imbalanced/ or an issue to the game?


Is this making sense?

[cloud234]

WARNING! Developer burnout imminent!

Truth to be said, you know how things work on the inside. There has to be a reason if new "community aggression" comes and repeats itself.

[EIRRMod]

No, I don't want you to do it alone, but being the Lead Developer would most likely have you being able to check over the stat changes so you know what's happening to EiR:R, no? Also allowing you to change things so you can see whats clearly balanced/imbalanced/ or an issue to the game?
Is this making sense?

*points to quote*

"You're not volunteering hard enough!"

[Scotzmen]

*points to quote*

"You're not volunteering hard enough!"

Most of the people here that can volunteer there skillz are part of the team, Mr. EIRRMod

[Tymathee]

the leig being changed puts it in line with both the stuh (a t2), the 95mm (a t2) AND the 75mm GMC (a t3 unlock as well). it can still damage vehicles and tanks, just not as effectively because iv'e seen stuhs do quite a bit of damage against light vehicles and tanks.

i like the 25% dmg for engie mines, should be interesting to see how it affects the meta-game, time will tell but no other doc has this so that makes it really interesting. Its nto as bad as it seems since engies placing mines will take 2x dmg n acc.

and omg, the faust increase is something we allied players have been asking for for a loooong time because of volks spam. Place the mystalin followers for that, you still get it cheaper than the sticky (60mu) and it's much more useful (imo) because it can target anything (infantry, weapon teams, houses, etc, anything on the field) and now u get 3 uses, please don't tell me you wont get a 3rd use out of it now that you know you have it lol cuz I would! I think u get 3 stickies, you rarely see an allied player use all 3 but u don't see us complaining do you?

PE Infantry also... I think the SIMPLIEST thing to do is just do a copy and paste of Grenadiers for them.  It seems odd they get a price increase, HP and armor change but their weapons aren't Grenadier rifles... is that really fair to hit their infantry in a half manner?

they're still cheaper than Grenadiers and a little more than volks, they can take more of a punch but aren't invulnerable against weapon upgrades like before it's a fine change, and you guys get your freakin mp44 grenadiers now basically.

Oooh thats a change I was NOT expecting!

someone doesn't browse the boards at all, it was announced days ago.

I want this one too  I think officers as a 'mini' squad distributing the health is a good way to remove their strength of armor + health.

I like it, although i think 2 men because of their smg's would be the best way to go, anymore and they're a mini kch squad and you'll see them used as such. (even if it's 3 max purchase, you'll see someone use all 3 as a call in trust)

also, the assault changes are a big change that was needed, they were being spammed and spammed well. Anytime someone can just go create an account just to counter a specific infantry company and spam assault, i find that a problem.

*points to quote*

"You're not volunteering hard enough!"

I'd love to volunteer and be part of the balance team just as a reviewer, whatever is needed I can help out with, i've been part of EIR for 3 years pretty much and am very dedicated to seeing this mod go on as long as possible and be the best it can be.

[Tymathee]

BTW, to some of you, you must remember a lot of these changes aren't designed to help the elite player but the casual EIR player.  A lot of the spam tactics loses new players because they're getting their asses kicked by cheap tactics, no one wants to play that, not even the vets who knows how to counter such things.

[Groundfire]

Thank you for all your hard work Firesparks


Guys, Play the patch.

Many of you are miss-interpreting the changes, give it a try before you jump on the someone elses' bandwagon.

Tym has the absolute right positive correct mindset. Optimistic, anxious to try the new changes, and doesnt disrespect the hard work and time that the coder put into the patch just because you "think" your army was nerfed.

This community has a problem with speculation and conjecture.

[Demon767]

agreed. you guys have no idea what your talking about the PE changes. its a considerable buff

[Groundfire]

Engineer mines for Tank Reapers? Are you fucking kidding me?

Also, i just went "wtf" at this one.

Is there some problem with extending the AT capabilities of the average infantry unit that doesnt involve blanket buff "zooks zooks zooks" or ATG spam? Using mines too hard or something?

[cloud234]

Many of you are miss-interpreting the changes, give it a try before you jump on the someone elses' bandwagon.

Tym has the absolute right positive correct mindset. Optimistic, anxious to try the new changes, and doesnt disrespect the hard work and time that the coder put into the patch just because you "think" your army was nerfed.

This community has a problem with speculation and conjecture.

I can readily cite the amount of times, implementations which were made which have been stated from day one to be terrible. I would honestly let dead dogs lie but if you want to push on this point I will happily cite as many as I can remember. Not everything requires "trying" to know its bad. Do you try drugs just to know its bad? :p

I agree people should not blame the coder. They should blame the one who thought this was great for balancing.

[BigDick]

Oooh thats a change I was NOT expecting!

that will probably help making the PE schrecks a bit better AT option
i like that change
ut im still waiting for non fuel based remanable AT to replace the 50mm 

[EIRRMod]

Do you try drugs just to know its bad? :p

Yes.  Yes I do.

[Unkn0wn]

Alright, I see everyone is up in arms already, probably without even playing the patch.
So let me get some things straight

Engineer mines for Tank Reapers? Are you fucking kidding me?

What's your point? It's one of a list of various AT buffs that TR now gives, much more balanced than just buffing bazookas and ATGs. We added a buff to TR, you should be happy if anything. Unless you still haven't digested the TR nerf I guess.

Why the increase in fausts to 50 munitions? You'll never get to fire off 3 rounds (unless ur opponent really sucks) plus the firing animation is easy to dodge. Its even worse than stickie that it doesn't cause a disable!

The firing animation dodge is also a reason why you could be happy with 3 uses. Getting 3 fausts off may be hard, but it's certainly not going to be impossible. (You used to get 3 uses with vet 2, now you get them at base). It's an experimental change, see how it plays out, else we'll have to take a little more drastic course in regards to the panzerfaust.

LEIG18 with lowered damage and penetration makes it a very poor weapon to field. Its notable use was its versatility... but now it is essentially a high pop high cost unit which can only kill infantry sporadically.

It's brought in line with the StuH, that's not necessarily a bad thing. But it's price and pool is now probably off for what it does. Easy fix

But with the exception of the rifle upgrade (storm tactics) PzGrens suck at damage output. Is this a good decision?

There's also upgrades, TBs and Assault grenadiers.

ight now the only reason (imo) to play PzGrens is becasue they are low pop

There's no reason to justify panzergrenadiers being 4 pop when all other mainline infantry in the game (including the 'terrible' ones) are 5 pop.

If anything, make it so it is a stackable buy, like how MP44s can be bought in two sets of 2 (so those who need cheap 2 use fausts or those who really think they'll get 3 uses out of it, be my guest).

You mean reverting the change and offering 3 as an option, basically doing NOTHING what so ever against volks+faust spam?

Assault Gren price increase, in particular MU from 95 to 120 MU (roughly a 25% increase in their cost) is super excessive.

Did you see the survivability buff? They're now basically grenadiers with mp44s... So no, that's really not excessive.

PE Infantry also... I think the SIMPLIEST thing to do is just do a copy and paste of Grenadiers for them.  It seems odd they get a price increase, HP and armor change but their weapons aren't Grenadier rifles... is that really fair to hit their infantry in a half manner?

Base PE are not getting a price increase, because their weapon is so terrible so increasing them towards 240 MP (Gren price) wouldn't be justified at all. HOWEVER Tankbusters and Assault grens need to go to 240MP at least, since their weapon is a panzerschreck and mp44s respectively. Or are you going to tell me that Tankbusters (which are now practically a grenadier copy, except for the k98 on the other 3 guys) are in any way significantly worse than the Grenadiers with panzerschrecks?

[nugnugx]

Good patch , my few notes


1) What about the price of FJ faust ? It's still the same ? Should also be increased imo.

2) Can the incendiary assault be made without damage to your own troops if we are decreasing the damage?  A ability that can be used by enemy to kill yourself is not so great. It's not that powerfull , so atleast it shouldn't damage yourself.

[Unkn0wn]

1) What about the price of FJ faust ? It's still the same ? Should also be increased imo.

I'm not sure if the panzerfaust for KCH and Faust is the same as the volks one, else they will also be getting 3 uses and we will have to increase the price. It's an oversight :p

[BigDick]

Or are you going to tell me that Tankbusters (which are now practically a grenadier copy, except for the k98 on the other 3 guys) are in any way significantly worse than the Grenadiers with panzerschrecks?

actually i forgot that and yes that makes them much more worse then grenadiers since you still would have a 3 men regular grensquad as AI
and additional they can't get regular medkits

these two facts does not justify pricing them like grenadiers with shrek

Alright, I see everyone is up in arms already, probably without even playing the patch.
So let me get some things straight

the nasty comments will be made when seeing the nerfs of assault or leig in action  

[nugnugx]

I'm not sure if the panzerfaust for KCH and Faust is the same as the volks one, else they will also be getting 3 uses and we will have to increase the price. It's an oversight :p

KCH and FJ cost is 35 and i think it's the same, haven't seen any differences.

[Demon767]

There's no reason to justify panzergrenadiers being 4 pop when all other mainline infantry in the game (including the 'terrible' ones) are 5 pop.

fixed.